Losing to CSM

[chessplayer]

This info is perhaps useful to some here.

I attempted to count 4 deck CSM and lost big. I had a bankroll of more tham 1000 Ringgit malaysia, betting about 10 RM to 150 RM.

Ilost my Bankroll over about 20 odd hours.

I had usually bet when the TC is +1 over.

I suspect you cannot count in normal main blackjack bets because there is not sufficient cards in the buffer in CSM to be available for the dealer. That is, there is insufficient cards to go around to break the dealer's cards.



Some here have proposed too to Wong in. I faced a gigantics problem in wonging in: PLayers do not play BS and what you have saved from not betting while the count is normalis wiped out by their not doubling 11 vs 8, staying on 14 vs 10 etc.

 

[Sonny]

That is, there is insufficient cards to go around to break the dealer's cards.

I don't understand what you mean. There are not enough cards for the dealer to play their hand?

I faced a gigantics problem in wonging in: PLayers do not play BS...

That doesn't make a difference. If you are only playing during positive counts then you have an advantage. As long as you are playing correctly it doesn't matter how everyone else plays.

-Sonny-

 

[chessplayer]

I mean, okay, assume there are 20 cards in the buffer. You perhaps require a full table to have the count be high. Say the count reaches +2. Then you decide toplay in the next round. You place your bet, by the time all cards are delt to the players, the 20 cards are perhaps all played out. The card delt to the dealer will have a count not the +2you anticipated when you first placed your bet but a new count based on the cards on the tablenow.

I don't understand what you mean. There are not enough cards for the dealer to play their hand?-

When you wong in you place bets on the players and the seated players decide. Is this not the case?



That doesn't make a difference. If you are only playing during positive counts then you have an advantage. As long as you are playing correctly it doesn't matter how everyone else plays.

-Sonny-[/QUOTE]

 

[shadroch]

Betting on a seated player is not what is meant by wonging.
wonging is waiting until the count is in your favor before playing your own hand. When betting on someone elses hand, them not playing BS is absolutely a factor to be considered.

 

[Sonny]

You place your bet, by the time all cards are delt to the players, the 20 cards are perhaps all played out. The card delt to the dealer will have a count not the +2 you anticipated when you first placed your bet but a new count based on the cards on the tablenow.

Right. If the dealer re-inserts the discards after each round then you are playing from a freshly shuffled shoe every round (with the exception of any cards in the buffer, which won't be many). Traditional card counting does not work in this situation.

-Sonny-