Loss of EV with a $10 min bet

xxrenegadexx

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I'm sick of waiting for a $5 table to open up(which can take an hour sometimes). Does anyone know my loss in EV playing a $10 min table with a 1-10 spread instead of a $5 table with a 1-20 spread?
 

sabre

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A quick sim for a 6D, S17, LS, game using KO. The 1-10 bet ramp was 1-2-3-4 ... 10, the 1-20 bet ramp was 1-4-6-8 ... - 20.

Winrates per 100 hands played:

$13.33/100 $10-$100 spread
$15.90/100 $5-$100 spread

This assumed play-all.
 

xxrenegadexx

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good stuff..... i use high low and always take a bathroom/ smoke / phone call break at a rc of -8. Question- how many hands does your sim cover? thx
 

xxrenegadexx

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sabre said:
A quick sim for a 6D, S17, LS, game using KO. The 1-10 bet ramp was 1-2-3-4 ... 10, the 1-20 bet ramp was 1-4-6-8 ... - 20.

Winrates per 100 hands played:

$13.33/100 $10-$100 spread
$15.90/100 $5-$100 spread

This assumed play-all.
its 6d s17 ... there is no surrender though
 

xxrenegadexx

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sabre said:
A quick sim for a 6D, S17, LS, game using KO. The 1-10 bet ramp was 1-2-3-4 ... 10, the 1-20 bet ramp was 1-4-6-8 ... - 20.

Winrates per 100 hands played:

$13.33/100 $10-$100 spread
$15.90/100 $5-$100 spread

This assumed play-all.
could anyone do the same sim with 6d s17 no surrender using hi-lo.
1-10 spread - $10 table also
1-20 spread - $5 table....... both wonging out at a rc of -8
thanks in advance
 

21forme

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DOn't you want to base your decisions on TC, not RC in Hi LO?
For example, RC of -8 with one deck played is TC -1 (floored.) After 4 decks played it's -4. BIG difference.
 

xxrenegadexx

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EasyRhino said:
Renegade, you might want to look into powersim.

http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/content/SimSimp_Beta.htm

It's kind of hard to use, and there's some features which it doesn't support (without doing your own coding!) but it's free, and it can answer the fairly straightfoward what-if questions that you're asking.
ive tried ... i must be doing something wrong because im getting a $4 an hour profit with a 1-20 spread. ....
 

EasyRhino

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First mistake I made was that the sim has no concept of "units", so if you spread 1-20, you're literally spreading $1 to $20. Enter actual dollar amounts for the bets.
 
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