lucky lady bet!/ 6 to 5

The Stork

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Do not get me wrong, blackjack 6 to 5 should be avoided, but I watched this game going on yesterday having offered lucky ladies in this 1 deck game.

400 to 1 for QQ of harts, dealer BJ
25 to 1 QQ of harts
9 to 1 TT
7 to 1 Any suited 20
3 to 1 Any 20

Is there any positive edge possible having this lucky lady bet included in this for the rest louzy game. I know the normal disadvantage from the start is 1.5 percent. Double after split allowed, dealer hit soft 17. Yes, I know all bad bull. Please let me know. I have never seen this option being offered in 6 to 5 rip off game.

Thanks,
 

k_c

Well-Known Member
The Stork said:
Do not get me wrong, blackjack 6 to 5 should be avoided, but I watched this game going on yesterday having offered lucky ladies in this 1 deck game.

400 to 1 for QQ of harts, dealer BJ
25 to 1 QQ of harts
9 to 1 TT
7 to 1 Any suited 20
3 to 1 Any 20

Is there any positive edge possible having this lucky lady bet included in this for the rest louzy game. I know the normal disadvantage from the start is 1.5 percent. Double after split allowed, dealer hit soft 17. Yes, I know all bad bull. Please let me know. I have never seen this option being offered in 6 to 5 rip off game.

Thanks,
How is it possible to get 2 queens of hearts in a single deck game?

k_c
 

SystemsTrader

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k_c said:
How is it possible to get 2 queens of hearts in a single deck game?

k_c
You can't. What usually happens in single deck is any pair of Q's pays 250-1. But this one is 400-1 so it most likely is the QH and the QD against dealer bj pays the prize.
 

SecurityRisk

Well-Known Member
k_c said:
How is it possible to get 2 queens of hearts in a single deck game?

k_c
Where does it say single deck? I can't find that anywhere in the post. I have learned that you should never assume. While most of the 6/5 games in Vegas are single deck, I have seen the occasional 6/5 double deck game, and even 6/5 shoe game.
 

Sonny

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SecurityRisk said:
Where does it say single deck? I can't find that anywhere in the post.
The Stork said:
Do not get me wrong, blackjack 6 to 5 should be avoided, but I watched this game going on yesterday having offered lucky ladies in this 1 deck game.
:joker:

-Sonny-
 

SecurityRisk

Well-Known Member
Oops. I'm sorry. I was looking for the word "single." I guess I should read more carefully.

Good thing you can't see me. You can't believe how red my face is right now.
 

aslan

Well-Known Member
SecurityRisk said:
Oops. I'm sorry. I was looking for the word "single." I guess I should read more carefully.

Good thing you can't see me. You can't believe how red my face is right now.
We can see you. You can't see us! :grin:
 

The Stork

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Queens with dealer blackjack, oeps!!!

Ok sorry ofcourse no extra queen and mistake mine but queens with dealer bj pays 400 to 1.

Anything what can be done here with this joker game including the lucky ladies bet offered?
 

miplet

Active Member
400 to 1 any 2 queens, dealer BJ
25 to 1 any 2 queens
9 to 1 Any pair of jacks, kings, or tens
7 to 1 Any suited 20 (including soft)
3 to 1 Any other 20 (including soft)

I assume you mean the above paytable. It has a house edge of 24.67%.

Here is an excel file. Change how many of each card to see the change in house edge. If you change the other number to 21 (removing 7 cards that are not tens, aces, or nines) gives the player a 4.6% edge.
http://www.miplet.net/bj/luckyladiessingle.xls
 

zengrifter

Banned
miplet said:
400 to 1 any 2 queens, dealer BJ
25 to 1 any 2 queens
9 to 1 Any pair of jacks, kings, or tens
7 to 1 Any suited 20 (including soft)
3 to 1 Any other 20 (including soft)

I assume you mean the above paytable. It has a house edge of 24.67%.

Here is an excel file. Change how many of each card to see the change in house edge. If you change the other number to 21 (removing 7 cards that are not tens, aces, or nines) gives the player a 4.6% edge.
http://www.miplet.net/bj/luckyladiessingle.xls
We need a count correlation sim. zg
 

The Stork

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overall don't even play it!

Well if that has an 24.67 percent against you, than it should be clear that this game offering the odds on this site bet should be avoided. They do not even shuffle more than 50 percent of the deck...Any comments here?

I am hungry!!
 

halcyon1234

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The Stork said:
Well if that has an 24.67 percent against you, than it should be clear that this game offering the odds on this site bet should be avoided. They do not even shuffle more than 50 percent of the deck...Any comments here?

I am hungry!!
There's a difference between avoiding it and not playing it.

Avoiding it means you stay away from the table.

Not playing it means you go to a crowded table, find someone who isn't playing the sidebet, and say "hey, dude, I don't wanna play Blackjack, but my friend won a whole bunch of money once on this bet and told me to play it. Can I just, like, use your spot for the side bet, since you aren't using it?"

When the count drops, say thanks you're won/lost enough,and walk away.
 

jimbiggs

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miplet said:
400 to 1 any 2 queens, dealer BJ
25 to 1 any 2 queens
9 to 1 Any pair of jacks, kings, or tens
7 to 1 Any suited 20 (including soft)
3 to 1 Any other 20 (including soft)

I assume you mean the above paytable. It has a house edge of 24.67%.

Here is an excel file. Change how many of each card to see the change in house edge. If you change the other number to 21 (removing 7 cards that are not tens, aces, or nines) gives the player a 4.6% edge.
http://www.miplet.net/bj/luckyladiessingle.xls

Sorry about waking an old thread from the dead. This spreadsheet is awesome. If miplet's math is correct, when you remove 7 cards that are anything but 9,X,A, you have a 4.6 advantage on this pay table. I played around with it a little more. If you remove zero queens and random other face cards, then you only need to have a running count of +5 to have an advantage. If you remove one queen, then you would have to have a running count of +7. If you remove two queens, then you would need a running count of +9. Seems like a side count of queens would help a guy from push the money out at the right time. But the advantage moves with the removal of different cards as you play though the deck. Of course, a special count would have to be used since 7s and 8s fall in with the low cards. I guess this is why sims are so valuable.

Anybody have any thoughts on this?
 
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