My Roulette Strategy

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bjcardcounter

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I am a BJ guy and play Let it ride/Roulette/Craps to build comps. This time, I wanted to bet on Roulette in a better way than just putting my money inside or outside.

Bet 10 on Even
Cover 2 nd box Odd numbers with 2 each - max 10. Two numbers would obviously get one bet. So I bet on 13 , 15, 17, 19, 21, 23.

Next time, move the inside bets to odd numbers 3rd box and outside to even.

I was almost hitting every 2nd spin - either outside or inside. Was able to come out well to build my bank roll for BJ :eyepatch:
 
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Machinist

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bjcardcounter said:
I am a BJ guy and play Let it ride/Roulette/Craps to build comps. This time, I wanted to bet on Roulette in a better way than just putting my money inside or outside.

Bet 10 on Even
Cover 2 nd box Odd numbers with 2 each - max 10. Two numbers would obviously get one bet. So I bet on 13 , 15, 17, 19, 21, 23.

Next time, move the inside bets to odd numbers 3rd box and outside to even.

I was almost hitting every 2nd spin - either outside or inside. Was able to come out well to build my bank roll for BJ :eyepatch:
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R U being serious????? Or is this some voodoo joke thing???????

Machinist
 
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Machinist

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bjcardcounter said:
Serious, I am not marketing anything, i am just sharing what I did.
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Oh okay.!!! Fair enough..... The edge on roulette is horrible....sooooooo
Craps i can deal with......let it ride.....ehhhhh
I hope you are penciling out your negative EV for those games and balance it against your comps...

Machinist
 
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shadroch

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Belongs in the circular file.
When presenting a strategy like this, one should work out the percentage of hits you can expect in 1000 spins, the money laid out and the expected win rate. Doing the math required to give these answers will more than likely convince the OP that the plan is deficient and there is no reason to embarass themselves.
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

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shadroch said:
Belongs in the circular file.
When presenting a strategy like this, one should work out the percentage of hits you can expect in 1000 spins, the money laid out and the expected win rate. Doing the math required to give these answers will more than likely convince the OP that the plan is deficient and there is no reason to embarass themselves.
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Cut the kid a little slack - he was only doing it to build his BJ BR! zg
 
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bjcardcounter

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shadroch said:
Belongs in the circular file.
When presenting a strategy like this, one should work out the percentage of hits you can expect in 1000 spins, the money laid out and the expected win rate. Doing the math required to give these answers will more than likely convince the OP that the plan is deficient and there is no reason to embarass themselves.
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There is really no need to put this strategy through those acid tests. It is deficient :cool2: It was mere gambling.

Machinist said:
Oh okay.!!! Fair enough..... The edge on roulette is horrible....sooooooo
Craps i can deal with......let it ride.....ehhhhh
I hope you are penciling out your negative EV for those games and balance it against your comps...

Machinist
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Point taken. I have to.
 
creeping panther

creeping panther

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Roulette

A single 0 wheel is 2.56 I believe, give or take. No matter how you bet you will not over come that figure, except one way it is worse.

Don'ts on craps 1.44. Before taking odds.

The 6.5 SD dealt to the bottom where I often play is 1.33 off the top.

Jacks or better 99.56.

The 6d game is .44

What do you want to play?

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blackjacktilt

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bjcardcounter said:
I am a BJ guy and play Let it ride/Roulette/Craps to build comps. This time, I wanted to bet on Roulette in a better way than just putting my money inside or outside.

Bet 10 on Even
Cover 2 nd box Odd numbers with 2 each - max 10. Two numbers would obviously get one bet. So I bet on 13 , 15, 17, 19, 21, 23.

Next time, move the inside bets to odd numbers 3rd box and outside to even.

I was almost hitting every 2nd spin - either outside or inside. Was able to come out well to build my bank roll for BJ :eyepatch:
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worst game in the house, my strategy is to not play it at all :joker:
 
blackchipjim

blackchipjim

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Roullette

If you are a wheeler and enjoy playing for the fun of it or a change of pace there is a way to attack it. There is a book that explains different plans and what to expect from each. The book's plans were called the grandmaster 6,8,10..... you get the idea. I never took the plans or played them but they laid out the way to play with some sort of logic. If I get the book back I'll post the title and author.
 
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bjcardcounter

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blackchipjim said:
If you are a wheeler and enjoy playing for the fun of it or a change of pace there is a way to attack it. There is a book that explains different plans and what to expect from each. The book's plans were called the grandmaster 6,8,10..... you get the idea. I never took the plans or played them but they laid out the way to play with some sort of logic. If I get the book back I'll post the title and author.
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There is a forum similar to BlackjackInfo for Roulette and there are simulators :eek:
 
UK-21

UK-21

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In the UK, it is common practice for the evens, and two-to-one, paying outside bets to require a minimum of 10 chips or 5 chips to be wagered.

When I play to be sociable I play a strategy of covering 4 x 6 numbers and 1 x 0-1-2-3 - so I've covered 28/37 numbers for just 5 chips (an improvement on covering just 18/37 numbers). If I win four times on the trot, or 0-1-2-3 comes up at anytime I then increase the wager to 2 chips on 4 x 6 numbers and 1 chip on 0-1-2-3. If 0-1-2-3 comes up I just repeat the bet. When/if I've won for two or three spins at the higher level bet I return to the original 5chip wager. Boring stuff, but I don't play with an expectation of winning anything, just so I'm not considered a party-pooper.

This pattern, of course, doesn't defray the HE one iota. What it does do is provide an expectation of being paid out 75-ish% of the time, which improves on the variance over more on betting red/black etc. It's also useful if comps are calculated based on the total amount being bet (as some electronic terminals do?) rather than just on the amount of initial buy ins.

With regard to the HE, it's spooky how the amounts lost I've clocked playing the freebies online return, as a %age of the total amount bet, to the HE.

Should this be in the VOODOO section ? :grin:
 
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alwayssplitaces

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#15
Just make big bets in roulette when the pit boss is watching. Put $100 on the table when he's watching a spin. Hedge the bets so that your chance of losing all is lower. And don't play when he isn't watching.
 
aslan

aslan

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bjcardcounter said:
I am a BJ guy and play Let it ride/Roulette/Craps to build comps. This time, I wanted to bet on Roulette in a better way than just putting my money inside or outside.

Bet 10 on Even
Cover 2 nd box Odd numbers with 2 each - max 10. Two numbers would obviously get one bet. So I bet on 13 , 15, 17, 19, 21, 23.

Next time, move the inside bets to odd numbers 3rd box and outside to even.

I was almost hitting every 2nd spin - either outside or inside. Was able to come out well to build my bank roll for BJ :eyepatch:
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Why not stick to BJ and VP for building your comps. A -EV game is a good way to destroy your bankroll, not build it. A good deal of introspection appears warranted; are you hiding (from yourself) a tendency toward compulsive gambling? Better to get "it" in check before "it" gets you in trouble.
 
aslan

aslan

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blackchipjim said:
If you are a wheeler and enjoy losing money for the fun of it or a change of pace there is a way to attack it. There is a book that explains different plans and what to expect from each. The book's plans were called the grandmaster 6,8,10..... you get the idea. I never took the plans or played them but they laid out the way to play with some sort of illogic. If I get the book back I'll post the title and author.
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I took the liberty to edit your post above (boldface). My question is, if you enjoy losing money, why would you want to slow down the process? Go for it! (not you, bcj)

I don't mean to come down on you personally, BCJ, but playing roulette for fun does beg the question, "What fun can thus be derived?" Surely not the spinning of a black and red wheel with a spinning ball that will land randomly in one of 38 slots. It must be the excitement of gambling, the element of chance. Therefore, what you are suggesting is how to attain the thrill of negative EV gambling with the least or slowest rate of loss possible. But then, doesn't that eliminate some of the fun? And doesn't that just whet the appetite for "more fun"? I don't subscribe to the "get it out of your system" school or "a little gambling never hurt anyone" crowd. I cannot condone the playing of -EV games (comps considered) for fun, since in the long run it can only lead to losses and possible addiction. It's too much like an occasional hit of opium just for kicks.

Now, to bring it all in perspective, I like to gamble now and then. It's human nature. But I am working as hard as possible to completely eliminate any form of -EV casino gambling from my life. I am having so much difficulty eliminating it 100% that I must conclude that the tiny bit I do is compulsive. I don't want to be responsible for encouraging anyone to do anything that smacks of compulsive gambling.

I know-- I'm wound too tight. Loosen up. What's the big deal! Maybe...you're right... But I feel really stupid losing $10 to a machine designed by the world's leading experts to steal my money. :laugh::grin::whip:
 
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bjcardcounter

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aslan said:
Why not stick to BJ and VP for building your comps. A -EV game is a good way to destroy your bankroll, not build it. A good deal of introspection appears warranted; are you hiding (from yourself) a tendency toward compulsive gambling? Better to get "it" in check before "it" gets you in trouble.
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Sure Aslan.

BJ seems the worst comp'er. I play 15$ BJ for 7 hours and get what 1 point and 1$ comp, and I play roulette/Let it ride risking just a total of 50$ for 15-30 minutes betting 5$ or 10$, the points and comps are way several times more than what was given for playing BJ. I play these games only at the casino where I stay only for some time. I hope it does not go over my head.
 
aslan

aslan

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bjcardcounter said:
Sure Aslan.

BJ seems the worst comp'er. I play 15$ BJ for 7 hours and get what 1 point and 1$ comp, and I play roulette/Let it ride risking just a total of 50$ for 15-30 minutes betting 5$ or 10$, the points and comps are way several times more than what was given for playing BJ. I play these games only at the casino where I stay only for some time. I hope it does not go over my head.
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So you're probably getting comp rooms as well? That's not a bad deal. They sure are stingy with their BJ comps. But I probably bet more on average, so maybe that's why I make out better, plus I put in substantial hours. Also, I can play VP JOB 9/6 for hours recycling the same initial money over and over at times, and even win sometimes. Last trip I had two days of $50 slot play and made both $50 good besides putting in time at the machine.

I've only played roulette when steaming and am $3,000 ahead. I said I would never play again at $2,500, so I think I have a potentially serious gambling problem. Is their any hedging of bets that can slow down the 5%+ HA? I've never studied it, but my guess is that hedging strategies are still unable to reduce the HA-- they're just equivalent to betting less money.
 
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CORed

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shadroch said:
Belongs in the circular file.
When presenting a strategy like this, one should work out the percentage of hits you can expect in 1000 spins, the money laid out and the expected win rate. Doing the math required to give these answers will more than likely convince the OP that the plan is deficient and there is no reason to embarass themselves.
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I know without doing all the math that the house edge on all bets on the roulette table is 5.26% (double zero). Knowing this, I know that that is the house edge for any combination of bets, so it's not really necessary to do anything but multiply the total bets by 5.26% to know the expected loss.

It amazes me how many people think they can beat roulette with progressions or combination bets. Roulette is the most honest game in the casino (I said honest, not fair). The house edge is nakedly displayed, obvious to anybody with basic math skills and a rudimentary understanding of probability.
 
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