Need advice/input from all professionals. What's that one thing you would pass down?

#21
Cardcounter said:
1. Get a players card every place you go you never know some places might send you free money in the mail. I consider getting match play coupons free money. Other places have sent me coupons to redem for cash. Plus I earn comps and can eat at a lot of casinos for free.

2. Never over bet your bankroll it does not matter how high the count is. Always bet an amount you are comfortable with even if you have to split 3 times to make 4 hands. If doubling is allowed you could get as much as 7 times more than your orginal bet. The most I remember getting out there was 5 times my orginal bet.

3. If you lose a couple of hands playing the correct stragedy do not deviate or get gun shy especially playing these hands especially if these are double down hands. Keep playing the way that gives you the best chance to win even if you are not winning at the moment.
I'm going to apply these right here.

Thanks CardCounter!
 

Kasi

Well-Known Member
#23
ihate17 said:
Counters who land up being lifetime losers are counters who fail to put out the proper bets when the count calls for it.
I don't know, obviously, but I would guess alot of counters fail, especially maybe beginning counters, because they don't know what the proper bet is. That is how it might change from one set of rules to another, from one number of decks to another, from back-counting vs playall, what effect cutting a DD off 10 cards sooner has on ur bet spread etc. Whether they will parlay bets or not, etc. Like maybe they're prone to one bet ramp fits all games.

But then again I don't know how often u guys change ur spread given whatever. Maybe u always play the same game. If so would u change anything if a 6D went from 4/6 to 5/6 or entered a shoe at TC+2 vs TC+3?

Anyway, I think it's certainly possible a counter puts up what he thinks is the proper bet and then wonders if it was bad luck or something else. I guess I would think it's a given that a counter would always have the nerve to make his max bet whenever. If he doesn't, it's almost like deviaiting from BS like u say lol.

I don't know but betting what u r comfortable with wouldn't really make it for me.
 

TENNBEAR

Well-Known Member
#24
[QUOTE=pitchblackjack;37616]Any more wisdom to share folks? :)[/QUOTE]
New counters need to realize that once you have steped over the line from causual BS player, to advantage play you must give-up completely all hunch-plays and supertisions.
You must stick exactly to the count system, and the betting strategy you chosen, playing perfectly only gives you a very small edge, very little deviation from the plan, or very few mistakes and you will give your small edge back to the house.
Your new challenge, now that you have the edge is to win with it. Work and practice, to improve your skills and improve your edge. Your goal is to leave the casino with more money than you came with, inwhich is a really serious challenge, and is great when you pull it off.
As far as it being a grind, no it never has been a grind for me, I am not a proffessional player, but while at the table I laugh, tell jokes, and I never shut-up, all while counting. I never stop trying new ideas, and improving my game.
 
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3aces

Active Member
#25
Need advice from professionals. What's the one thing you would pass down?

Super advice Kasi. Is there a thread or other resource regarding how to vary spread based on penetration?
 

RikaKazak

Well-Known Member
#26
Don't be results oriented

You can make the correct play and lose, and you can make the incorrect play and win.

edited: another way to say it "huntches are for idiots"
 

Kasi

Well-Known Member
#27
bj42 said:
Super advice Kasi. Is there a thread or other resource regarding how to vary spread based on penetration?
I don't know how good it is lol.

I'm sure there are but, in general, I'm trying to say learn how different rules, bet ramps of how much and when, the effect of what games at what penetration and how u play them, effect your ROR compared to ur bankroll.

One simple example, you could probably spread 1-16 in a 5.5/8 8D S17 DAS game with a $5 unit. But if it were dealt 7/8 you could probably spread the same with a $10 unit and keep your ROR the same compared to the same bankroll.
 

GeorgeD

Well-Known Member
#28
TENNBEAR said:
[QUOTE=pitchblackjack;37616]Any more wisdom to share folks? :)

New counters need to realize that once you have steped over the line from causual BS player, to advantage play you must give-up completely all hunch-plays and supertisions.
You must stick exactly to the count system, and the betting strategy you chosen, playing perfectly only gives you a very small edge, very little deviation from the plan, or very few mistakes and you will give your small edge back to the house.
Your new challenge, now that you have the edge is to win with it. Work and practice, to improve your skills and improve your edge. Your goal is to leave the casino with more money than you came with, inwhich is a really serious challenge, and is great when you pull it off.
As far as it being a grind, no it never has been a grind for me, I am not a proffessional player, but while at the table I laugh, tell jokes, and I never shut-up, all while counting. I never stop trying new ideas, and improving my game.[/QUOTE]

Hope you don't mean a non AP player *SHOULD* deviate from BS and play hunches. I suppose then you have the chance of winning more, but you also might lose more in a given session, have more variance, and in the long run lose more $$$.
 
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