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AdvantagePlayer

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Hello, fellow blackjack players. I play barely get the chance to play blackjack due to working long hours but when i do get to play it is only less than a few hours. My question is Can you really buy other players hands as discribed in James Grosjean's Article. I myself never seen this done so I was wondering if its possible. The link is http://www.beyondcounting.com/articles.html (Archive copy) and its under Scavenger Blackjack or Generalized Basic Strategy.
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Lonesome Gambler

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Absolutely! And buying splits and double downs is even more common. The casino usually doesn't care what you do, as long as the transfer of chips is done away from the felt.
 
StandardDeviant

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The most common situation I've seen is completing someone's double. There seem to be a reasonable number of opportunities to do that.

Buying a split seems interesting. I assume I'd have to convince the person to split when she didn't want to and then offer to buy the split. Or I suppose I could pay for part of the split...interesting.

That CAA article is interesting, isn't it?
 
Tarzan

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Player of the week award

This actually goes more like play of the week award in a scavenger situation. This occurred at a low stakes table, like around $15 min, I think. Player is not going to double down their 11 against the dealer 10. Player next to him offers to take the double. Player agrees and then gets a "2" on top of the 11 for a 13 that they are stuck with and the hand lost. The next card was an "8" so the original better freaks out and claims that the player doubling owes him the original bet since he would have hit it again and won and the double meant not being able to hit it again!

They almost got into a fistfight over this and the dealer's eyes were rolling, the pit supervisor was coming over and I think they were contemplating security being called in, who knows. It was quite a spectacle to behold and these two guys were both ready to kill each other over $10 or $15.
 
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Renzey

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StandardDeviant said:
The most common situation I've seen is completing someone's double. There seem to be a reasonable number of opportunities to do that.

Buying a split seems interesting. I assume I'd have to convince the person to split when she didn't want to and then offer to buy the split. Or I suppose I could pay for part of the split...interesting.

That CAA article is interesting, isn't it?
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One of the easiest forms of hand interaction to partake in is to sell off half of your own disadvantageous splits. When dealt a pair of 2's, 3's, 6's or 7's against a 2 or 3 -- or a pair of 3's or 7's against a 7, just say, "I guess you're supposed to split these, right?" It will be very normal for more than one person to say, "That's a good split", or "Make money, baby!" or, "I'd split those in a heartbeat."

Then be honest about it and say that you hate the hand, 'cause you usually lose with it, and if anybody wants to go halves with you they can be your guest. The vulture money often comes right out of the woodwork, and the higher the stakes table it is, the more offers you'll get.

The most amicable arrangement for this is to go 50-50 partners on the entire combined hand, including re-splits and subsequent doubles. That way, there are no sour grapes if one hand wins and the other loses. Both partners will simply divide all the money that's out there 50-50 after all the smoke clears.
 
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Tarzan said:
This actually goes more like play of the week award in a scavenger situation. This occurred at a low stakes table, like around $15 min, I think. Player is not going to double down their 11 against the dealer 10. Player next to him offers to take the double. Player agrees and then gets a "2" on top of the 11 for a 13 that they are stuck with and the hand lost. The next card was an "8" so the original better freaks out and claims that the player doubling owes him the original bet since he would have hit it again and won and the double meant not being able to hit it again!

They almost got into a fistfight over this and the dealer's eyes were rolling, the pit supervisor was coming over and I think they were contemplating security being called in, who knows. It was quite a spectacle to behold and these two guys were both ready to kill each other over $10 or $15.
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That's why I only do scavenger plays on double downs when I know that they wouldn't hit the next card due to the dealer having a bust card. On splits I tell them I have the right or left side depending on where I'm sitting.
 
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shadroch

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Renzey said:
One of the easiest forms of hand interaction to partake in is to sell off half of your own disadvantageous splits. When dealt a pair of 2's, 3's, 6's or 7's against a 2 or 3 -- or a pair of 3's or 7's against a 7, just say, "I guess you're supposed to split these, right?" It will be very normal for more than one person to say, "That's a good split", or "Make money, baby!" or, "I'd split those in a heartbeat."

Then be honest about it and say that you hate the hand, 'cause you usually lose with it, and if anybody wants to go halves with you they can be your guest. The vulture money often comes right out of the woodwork, and the higher the stakes table it is, the more offers you'll get.

The most amicable arrangement for this is to go 50-50 partners on the entire combined hand, including re-splits and subsequent doubles. That way, there are no sour grapes if one hand wins and the other loses. Both partners will simply divide all the money that's out there 50-50 after all the smoke clears.
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Welcome back. I'm glad to see you are feeling up to participating on the boards, you've been missed.
 
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