need help with Wong HiLo indices

[Warlord]

I am learning my indecies for SD and am confused about the BS in relation to the Wong indices for SD.

BS says to DblDwn on 8 vs. 5 or 6 but wong says not to unless the count is >=+2.

Am I reading this right? or does it mean not to dbl when the count is +2 (which is crazy)?

on wongs 2 hand indices, for hands vs. 6 he has:
6,2 vs 6 .... +3
5,3 vs 6 .... +1
4,4 vs 6 .... +1

Is the +2 just an average and more accurate than the BS chart?

Or what!?

Thanks a bunch

BS
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Wong
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[zengrifter]

Indices are typically read to mean +2 or higher. zg

 

[SleightOfHand]

hmm, im not a pro, so dont take my word for it, but this is what I think is the reason using my common sense. BS is correct for a fresh deck. Indexes are correct when its not. and an 8 v 5 or 6 in a fresh deck means that the TC at the time is +3 (slightly more) since your 8 has to be composed of 2 small cards, which means that it is correct to double. But as you go further into the deck, there will be times when you have a 8 v 5 or 6 and the count is lower than +2, in which time you should not double down.

 

[blackjack avenger]

BS is Not Indices

BS is how you play your hand with no information. There are different BS rules depending on the specific game you are playing.

If you count cards you have further information. Based on the count one would sometimes play BS differently.

In the examples, you would double your 8 if your TC is higher then the number (indice) given. So over +3TC or +1TC you would double otherwise hit. I believe Wong says when exactly at the indice you take your pic.

However, it is probably better to be over the indice before you double on these specific hands.

 

[cardcounter0]

on wongs 2 hand indices, for hands vs. 6 he has:
6,2 vs 6 .... +3
5,3 vs 6 .... +1
4,4 vs 6 .... +1

Is the +2 just an average and more accurate than the BS chart?

Or what!?

+2 is an average based on the frequency of hands occuring. The specific hand composition indices are more accurate. Yes, you double when the true count is equal to, or higher, than the index number. Just hit when the true count is lower.

 

[Warlord]

+2 is an average based on the frequency of hands occuring. The specific hand composition indices are more accurate. Yes, you double when the true count is equal to, or higher, than the index number. Just hit when the true count is lower.

That makes sense, however BS says to hit it. Is BS taking into account that the dealer has a 6 (+1) and my hand must be composed of 2 cards at +1 = +2 for a total of +3

thanks for helping this infant CC!

 

[cardcounter0]

No, basic strategy takes in account that you have a 6 and a 2 and the dealer has 6 and there are 49 other cards left in the deck.

In fact, basic strategy takes in account that you have 6,2 or 5,3 or 4,4 weighted by frequency of occurance, and the dealer has a 6 and there are 49 other cards left in the deck.