Need shuffle analysis help

[double4more]

What other sources, other than Trailing the Dovetail Shuffle to Its Lair by David Bayer and Persi Diaconis, should I be looking at for serious analysis of casino shuffles? I have Blackjack Ace Prediction which lists a number of sources, but I need some advice concerning which ones are worth looking into. (Yes, there may be problems with BJAP, but there is information that can be gleaned from it.) I am currently programming a simulator/practice tool and want it to be as realistic as possible. It will have several applications for serious advantage play. I will probably provide a "lite" version to the public for free.

BTW, I am not looking for information concerning how shuffles are done, e.g., stutter/stepladder, riffle and restack (R&R), stripping, boxing, plugging, etc. I have all that information from sources such as Snyder's The Blackjack Shuffle Tracker's Cookbook. I'm interested in the mathematics concerning shuffles. For instance, what is the frequency of one, two, three, etc. card separations when two segments are riffled.

 

[Sonny]

I'm interested in the mathematics concerning shuffles. For instance, what is the frequency of one, two, three, etc. card separations when two segments are riffled.

That is covered in BJAP. The author compares his own study with those of Curtis and Hannum. All 3 studies produced similar results.

I am currently programming a simulator/practice tool and want it to be as realistic as possible.

Have you seen the CVShuffle software? It might give you some ideas for your own software. And please keep us updated on the progress of your program. It sounds interesting.

-Sonny-

 

[taipafan]

For instance, what is the frequency of one, two, three, etc. card separations when two segments are riffled.

I collected some real casino data, result on the frequency of how many cards apart after shuffle. Only small sample... shuffle=total 2 passes 2 riffles,

I don't have the book BJAP, but would like to compare my data with his study.

 

[double4more]

That is covered in BJAP. The author compares his own study with those of Curtis and Hannum. All 3 studies produced similar results.

Have you seen the CVShuffle software? It might give you some ideas for your own software. And please keep us updated on the progress of your program. It sounds interesting.

-Sonny-

First, thank you for your reply.

So is it safe to assume the works of Epstein, Curtis, Hannum, and Bayer & Diaconis will be sufficient? I don't believe I want to use McDowell's work alone, but rather as a reference of opinion with respect to the interpretation of the other bodies of work.

I haven't looked at CVShuffle yet. Perhaps at some point in the future.

I'll let you know what progress has been made. The full blown program will be mainly for myself to use along with those I will work with in the future, not really a commercial product. I would like for it to be a training tool. Additionally, I would like for it to be able to handle complex simulations such as Schlesinger's ODP problem in as realistic a manner as possible. I may request various experts to test the software.

 

[Brock Windsor]

Shuffle tracking

Best of Luck! Shuffle tracking and ace sequencing do not get enough discussion on this site. Probably because the folks that are really good at it are tight lipped and the old vets have lost too much vision to pick up the skill. I enjoyed shuffle trackers cookbook, PLEASE POST YOUR RESULTS!
BW

 

[Sonny]

So is it safe to assume the works of Epstein, Curtis, Hannum, and Bayer & Diaconis will be sufficient?

Quite possibly. I don’t know the extent of your program or what aspects of the shuffle you are investigating, but those sources might be all that you need.

-Sonny-