New Casino in Everett, MA?

MrFatCat

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#1
Has anyone tried the new Encore? Any condition reports or anything?

I'm very likely to play later this week, just wanted to know mins, pen, and decks, I can stick to poker if the blackjack conditions are bad. If nobody else has gone I'll report back next week.
 

paymypush

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#4
Nothing to see here. The main floor is 8 deck, H17, late surrender and no re-split aces. There are 22 6:5 tables and 17 3:2 tables. Minimums are $25 and $50 when slow and increase quickly. Table max is $5,000. Penetration is 1.5/8 by a notch in the shoe. It's odd that you can see a $50 6:5 game a few feet from a $25 3:2 game. Like any new place they're working out the kinks.

The high limit room is on the second level and has 12 blackjack tables. They are 6 deck, S17 and are $100 minimums. Pen was 1.5/6 but I didn't watch a lot of action. All tables are dealt from ASMs, even the high limit. Side bets are Super 4 and Match the Dealer.

Parking is free until July 1st. After that it will be $22 for 6 hours and $42 for 24 hours. Valet is more.

There were a lot of dealer mistakes that I saw and I didn't have to look hard. Seasoned poker players are cleaning up right now but more and more are showing up. I don't play and did not check out the poker room.
 

MrFatCat

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#6
paymypush said:
Nothing to see here. The main floor is 8 deck, H17, late surrender and no re-split aces. There are 22 6:5 tables and 17 3:2 tables. Minimums are $25 and $50 when slow and increase quickly. Table max is $5,000. Penetration is 1.5/8 by a notch in the shoe. It's odd that you can see a $50 6:5 game a few feet from a $25 3:2 game. Like any new place they're working out the kinks.

The high limit room is on the second level and has 12 blackjack tables. They are 6 deck, S17 and are $100 minimums. Pen was 1.5/6 but I didn't watch a lot of action. All tables are dealt from ASMs, even the high limit. Side bets are Super 4 and Match the Dealer.

Parking is free until July 1st. After that it will be $22 for 6 hours and $42 for 24 hours. Valet is more.

There were a lot of dealer mistakes that I saw and I didn't have to look hard. Seasoned poker players are cleaning up right now but more and more are showing up. I don't play and did not check out the poker room.
Jeez, do you start playing Match if they're paying 20:1 on a 6-7 spades match? (Saw that on the other site)

Thanks very much for this. I'll probably take a dabble at the $25. Any thoughts on how to capitalize on newness of the staff?
 

paymypush

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#7
MrFatCat said:
Jeez, do you start playing Match if they're paying 20:1 on a 6-7 spades match? (Saw that on the other site)

Thanks very much for this. I'll probably take a dabble at the $25. Any thoughts on how to capitalize on newness of the staff?
How far over the line do you want to go? I watched a couple of smart alecks tell the dealer she broke when she hadn't and she paid the table. They would shout out 22 and she just paid the survivors. When they broke they shouted out 21 and she took their word. Not my cup of tea. None of this will last.

There have been some arrests for cheating already. Past posting on roulette and blackjack.
 

MrFatCat

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#8
Yeah I'm not sure where I draw the line really. My current normal is that I don't object if they pay my push (fitting name you have there), and I certainly object if they make any error in the house's favor, even against a different player. I'll sometimes half-jokingly wave my hand to stand on 22+, and I don't think I would say anything if they didn't scoop my cards.

I don't think I would do anything illegal, so please let me know if any of the above are. I'm certainly not past-posting. And I don't think I would go so far as to spread out on first base to screw up shoe placement or things like that.
 

paymypush

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#9
I never do anything like that but when the dealer wants to "pay my push" I'll leave the chips in the circle a few extra seconds to let him catch the mistake. If he or she doesn't then it's all mine. Don't dare tip after that because it screams collusion and if it keeps happening I'll find another table.
 

MrFatCat

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#10
Really, find another table over it? I just feel like I've caught so many errors in the house's favor -- I've maybe played 35 hours of blackjack since starting to count casually recently, and I think I've spotted five in their favor and just one in mine. It'd be nice to have them actually make errors both directions for once.

Incidentally, do you happen to have a resource regarding what bets to pull back against a dealer error that fouls the hand such that the pit boss offers to let people pull them back? I figure that's happened there some if the dealers are green, as well.
 

Dog Hand

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#12
MrFatCat said:
Incidentally, do you happen to have a resource regarding what bets to pull back against a dealer error that fouls the hand such that the pit boss offers to let people pull them back? I figure that's happened there some if the dealers are green, as well.
MrFatCat,

The link below (which requires bj21 Green Chip access) is for the August 2012 "Post of the Month" that details which starting hands are positive EV as a function of the HiLo TC, the dealer's upcard, and whether or not the dealer has checked for BJ (for A and X upcards) for a 6D, H17, DAS game:

https://bj21.com/boards/green-chip-...pics/aug-2012-positive-ev-hands?page=1#unread

As you would expect, if the matchup is -EV, you should withdraw your bet when offered due to a dealer error.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand
 
#15
NatalieParruv said:
I'm sorry for posting here but I'm wondering if this casino is still working because I'm gonna be in Everett soon
Yes, it is still open. On a weekend night you're likely to see many 3:2, 8-deck, H17, DAS, LSr $50 limit full games (3 players to a table; max 2 spots per player) with 75%-80% pen (dealer named Andre sometimes cuts pen to 85%) with maybe 2 or 3 $25 limit games with the same rules. They have no issue with you backcounting and staring at cards but it's hard to backcount due to full tables but I suppose it can be done with a LOT of patience.

Upstairs they have $100 limit 6-deck, S17, with 80%+ pen.

Weekdays offer more $25 limit games.
 
#17
johndoe said:
Upstairs is NMSE still, correct?
Yes it is. Tables are usually one player to a table and there are not many people playing. Though I've always wondered if you could try wonging in and play dumb and see if they stop you (you would look very suspicious backcounting at these tables since there's very little traffic and not many players anyway).

$100 limit is outside my bankroll so I've never played these tables. I've only walked by and observed.
 
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