New "ish" tables at parx

[Ferretnparrot]

I was at parx yesterday, and i went to the OTHER building that has the poker room...to find they have 4 6 deck games with none of the electronic card reader stuff. I never knew this was here.

 

[NightOwl]

I think Parx East opened up New Years weekend.

 

[blackriver]

theres nev any APs near the poker room

 

[aslan]

I was at parx yesterday, and i went to the OTHER building that has the poker room...to find they have 4 6 deck games with none of the electronic card reader stuff. I never knew this was here.

The bldg I was in when I was there had "both" type games.

 

[geneticfreak]

They are removing some table games in the main building now that Parx East is up and running. I'd say about 1/2 of the tables are gone and have been replaced with slots and the virtual tables. There are also a bunch of the virtual tables waiting to be assembled and placed in a staging area off to the side wall. Looks like they are trying to balance out the crowd between the two buildings. I haven't been in Parx East since it opened, but isn't that also where the racing grandstand is?

 

[ArcticInferno]

What?!
There's another building?
LOL!

 

[aslan]

What?!
There's another building?
LOL!

That's what I say! LOL Could've fooled me. :laugh:

 

[nybroker]

Yes Parx East is the name its in the racing grandstand small gaming area on the first floor with a noodle bar. Upstairs there is a really nice poker room that will continue to expand. They also have live racing

This building table games mainly catering to asian games pai gow and baccarrat but there is a few I believe 4 BJ tables

 

[blackchipjim]

Parx card readers?

What is this card reader stuff tables? Would someone pm me about this if this is too sensitive for public reply.

 

[Pokemon]

At the small casino in DE, there's a table that is 8D shoe (don't remember the rest of the rules, but standard DE rules). As the dealer takes the card out of the shoe, the card gets "read" and it shows up on a small (less than 8x10) screen at each box. The screen totals the cards and also shows the dealer hand. Player makes hit/stand/double/split decisions by tapping the screen. Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy slow. When I was there back in Dec, I tried a few hands and stopped because the pace was so bad. Also, if the reader doesn't work on a card in any hand, the entire table is a "misdeal" and you have to wait until they fix it--including maybe a shuffle. (On that weekday, it was about 11:00 when they opened the table. The $5 table was full with people waiting, this table was $10. I moved to a $15 table just to get some faster play going. Didn't stay too long and went to the capital casino 30 min up the road.)

 

[Mewtwo]

At the small casino in DE, there's a table that is 8D shoe (don't remember the rest of the rules, but standard DE rules). As the dealer takes the card out of the shoe, the card gets "read" and it shows up on a small (less than 8x10) screen at each box. The screen totals the cards and also shows the dealer hand. Player makes hit/stand/double/split decisions by tapping the screen. Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy slow. When I was there back in Dec, I tried a few hands and stopped because the pace was so bad. Also, if the reader doesn't work on a card in any hand, the entire table is a "misdeal" and you have to wait until they fix it--including maybe a shuffle. (On that weekday, it was about 11:00 when they opened the table. The $5 table was full with people waiting, this table was $10. I moved to a $15 table just to get some faster play going. Didn't stay too long and went to the capital casino 30 min up the road.)

Eeeesh...that just sounds like crap.

Also, it's odd to see so many Pokemon fans congregating here. Are the mid 20's counters now the same batch that got into the series in their early to mid teens?

 

[aslan]

At the small casino in DE, there's a table that is 8D shoe (don't remember the rest of the rules, but standard DE rules). As the dealer takes the card out of the shoe, the card gets "read" and it shows up on a small (less than 8x10) screen at each box. The screen totals the cards and also shows the dealer hand. Player makes hit/stand/double/split decisions by tapping the screen. Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy slow. When I was there back in Dec, I tried a few hands and stopped because the pace was so bad. Also, if the reader doesn't work on a card in any hand, the entire table is a "misdeal" and you have to wait until they fix it--including maybe a shuffle. (On that weekday, it was about 11:00 when they opened the table. The $5 table was full with people waiting, this table was $10. I moved to a $15 table just to get some faster play going. Didn't stay too long and went to the capital casino 30 min up the road.)

When I played one of these tables at Parx it was very fast. The dealer knew how to do it, and the players were a cut above who had no trouble responding via the video touch screen in front of them. It actually sped up the game from the shoe game I had been playing previously at the same casino. Of course, it's not as fast as head to head with the dealer. I wonder what head to head using one of these tables would be?

I think there are two keys to these tables-- experienced dealers and quick-minded players.

 

[alwayssplitaces]

Those machines count the cards automatically and can notify the pit if it detects that someone's betting and playing is correlated with the count.

 

[aslan]

Those machines count the cards automatically and can notify the pit if it detects that someone's betting and playing is correlated with the count.

What evidence do you have of that?

 

[Polarbearsolvent]

Those machines count the cards automatically and can notify the pit if it detects that someone's betting and playing is correlated with the count.

That is the operative word here. I have played these tables here and there and drawn some conclusions about limitations from that. So (at least for now) they look scarier than they are.

 

[alwayssplitaces]

I played at that table and that's where I got backed off for counting. I had a big win in a session and I stayed at the same table too long. It's easier for a computer to analyze whether my betting pattern had a strong correlation to the count in any counting system. I was only spreading 15-150 or 15-2x75 and wonging out. It could notice that my second spot at the table was only being used when the count was above 2.

But I could sit at a $25 table in AC and back-count it for hours, wonging in at +2, spreading 25-2x100, and not get heat despite sitting at the table and not playing 80% of the hands.

 

[aslan]

I played at that table and that's where I got backed off for counting. I had a big win in a session and I stayed at the same table too long. It's easier for a computer to analyze whether my betting pattern had a strong correlation to the count in any counting system. I was only spreading 15-150 or 15-2x75 and wonging out. It could notice that my second spot at the table was only being used when the count was above 2.

But I could sit at a $25 table in AC and back-count it for hours, wonging in at +2, spreading 25-2x100, and not get heat despite sitting at the table and not playing 80% of the hands.

Interesting. What did they say to you? Did they trespass you? Do you think you can come back another day? Did you play rated?

 

[aslan]

I played at that table and that's where I got backed off for counting. I had a big win in a session and I stayed at the same table too long. It's easier for a computer to analyze whether my betting pattern had a strong correlation to the count in any counting system. I was only spreading 15-150 or 15-2x75 and wonging out. It could notice that my second spot at the table was only being used when the count was above 2.

But I could sit at a $25 table in AC and back-count it for hours, wonging in at +2, spreading 25-2x100, and not get heat despite sitting at the table and not playing 80% of the hands.

If you were wonging in at +2, they might never see you spreading $25 to 2x100. When you wonged in, did you bet one hand at $125 or two hands at $50 (half your max bet)? If you began at +2 with 2x$50 I doubt any casino would look twice at 2x$100 at +4 and above. Actually, if you went from 1x$125 to 2x$100, you wouldn't warrant a look either. The only thing that would be a strong tell would be your waiting until +2 to begin betting. How you get away with that anywhere in AC, I don't know.

On second thought you may be saying that you only bet $25 (one unit) at +2, which is under betting your advantage a bit. So the contrast would be a little greater. What do you bet at +3?