NEW James Grosjean article

daddybo

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Martin Gayle said:
Someone "cannot become enrichened by an error" is a legal standard. If you accept an overpayment, erroneous colour-up etc, the casino at anytime can identify the error and ask for their money back. If you do not, they can take civil action to prove that you recieved monies by error. Ever had a bank error in your favour? .
Since we are talking ethics... and you mentioned banks... I once wrote a Five figure check from a biz account to a personal account at different banks. It was credited to my personal account but never taken from the biz account. I kept it as an outstanding check on the books for years, all the while toying with the idea of alerting the bank. I even asked a banker friend how this could even happen. He assured me it's rare but can happen. even told me how.

Now I know AP Banking! :laugh: :devil:
 

Katweezel

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Casinos: "Card counting is cheating." Me: "Nah."

daddybo said:
Since we are talking ethics... and you mentioned banks... I once wrote a Five figure check from a biz account to a personal account at different banks. It was credited to my personal account but never taken from the biz account. I kept it as an outstanding check on the books for years, all the while toying with the idea of alerting the bank. I even asked a banker friend how this could even happen. He assured me it's rare but can happen. even told me how.

Now I know AP Banking! :laugh: :devil:
Dad, you never mentioned closure of the ethical or unethical kind... My theory is that occasionally, computer cyber-gremlins gobble loose globs of electrons. I have evidence for this... About 7 years ago, I ordered a nice double bed and quality mattress on special from a large city department store. I asked to pay $1995 cash on delivery. The delivery guys failed to ask for my cash. I'm still waiting for a bill from the department store, while I continue to sleep on their nice bed. I sleep well, and am not bothered by any issues of morals, ethics, or guilt. Business is business. Paid pushes are normal business as usual, as well. I am definitely not in the cheating business. Many casinos are. I believe we each create our own reality... Quite an interesting thread, this one, hey... ;)
 

Katweezel

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Daffy on special

newb99 said:
Why are you using a Yin-Yang symbol as your avitar now? Fozzy Bear worn thin?
Gee Newb, that's a bit personal from a non-avatary ain't it? If you must know, muppets reach their use-by date, as much as Fozzie made me smile whenever I looked at him. And I was pretty much disappointed when you failed to take up my free offer of Shrek for your avatar. I take it you are not a Shrek fan? How about Daffy Duck? :)
 

UK-21

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Avatar? I'll give it some thought. Something that's Great British, ie great and British. Watch this space . . . .
 

UK-21

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Winston Churchill - great wartime leader, not a particularly great career politician. Not so sure about the great humanitarian bit either - as late as the winter of 1944 he was still proposing to attack Germany's major cities, containing mostly women, children and foreign slave labourers, with posion gas knowing that it would kill hundreds of thousands of civilians. Only shelved it when the military seniors argued that there would be no military advantage in doing so and that it would impede the advance of the allied armies into the Reich in the Spring. The ethical question of being the first to use chemical weapons was a secondary consideration.

Thatcher - great wartime leader but unfathomly became totally deaf and blind at the beginning of her second term. Never even saw the dagger coming . . . .

Harold Wilson - better example of a man of his time.

Harold Steptoe - should have been Prime Minister.

:)
 

solb22

Member
Why does it matter what others think?

We know that HC is not defined as cheating. If you choose to not HC because of some love for beating blackjack "with pure math" thats fine. but that does not make any HC's accomplishments less worthy than yours.

for a recreational AP, you can take this route. but if your really serious about blackjack, why would you deny yourself an extra edge? :confused:

its like sticking with a level 1 count that you learned way back when you started instead of upgrading to a more efficient count. are you going to get a "better feeling" that is "more gratifying" because you won with a shittier advantage?

for me, i don't give a damn if its pure math or not. besides, most of our card counting techniques are tested THROUGH COMPUTERS, not by sitting at a blackboard coming up with equations.

to anwer the OP' question, since were getting of topic: i think its harder to find info on HC than card counting. the reason for this is because HC is more of a technique vs card counting which is a strategy. you need to be trained to catch the hole card
 

Sucker

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Casino personnel frequent this forum. On a public message board such as this, it's probably not a good idea to get TOO specific with HC or any OTHER advanced techniques. But so far I really DON'T have a problem with what you've posted, because your observations concerning hole cards are; for the most part, WAY off base. For example; everywhere in the world - with the POSSIBLE exception of a home game or two somewhere - the casino will station the shoe to the LEFT of the dealer. And when the dealer scoops the cards up, it does no good at ALL to see a flash - the hand is already OVER!

If you must respond to this, please do it via PM. :grin:
 

solb22

Member
Sucker said:
Casino personnel frequent this forum. On a public message board such as this, it's probably not a good idea to get TOO specific with HC or any OTHER advanced techniques. But so far I really DON'T have a problem with what you've posted, because your observations concerning hole cards are; for the most part, WAY off base. For example; everywhere in the world - with the POSSIBLE exception of a home game or two somewhere - the casino will station the shoe to the LEFT of the dealer. And when the dealer scoops the cards up, it does no good at ALL to see a flash - the hand is already OVER!

If you must respond to this, please do it via PM. :grin:
Jeez I keep making this mistake. I will delete the post. But i think you misread my post..
 

rrwoods

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... Ironically he's deleted the post but the person who asked him to delete it has it quoted still.

Sucker, you want to remove your quote? :p
 

solb22

Member
rrwoods said:
... Ironically he's deleted the post but the person who asked him to delete it has it quoted still.

Sucker, you want to remove your quote? :p
hahah i didn't want to be the person to ask him. thanks rrwods!
 

NightStalker

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Observations:

"a part-time folk singer who's nicknamed Pepper and is known as the world's fastest card counter."

"After hearing the dealer's suggestion, Grosjean stews and thinks to himself, Lady, you have no idea. The two people at your table know more about this game than anyone else on the planet."

"So we shut the game down ourselves, rather than waiting for MGM to do it." The team enlisted a Chinese friend to tell the dealer, in her native tongue, that she was exposing cards. "The dealer got a doctor's note, saying that she had carpal tunnel syndrome and couldn't deal pitch games anymore."

When I ask him to compare himself to the typical card counter, he sharply replies, "There are some people who think that the average card counter is the equivalent of a chimpanzee and I am a fully evolved human. But that's not quite accurate. In reality, card counters are more like salamanders just crawling onto land—even though they think they're swinging through the trees."

Really?
 
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