New to counting, using Wong Halves with 6+ decks

[johndoe]

Yes, all things being equal, a two-level count will give you a slightly higher advantage. But if you put that energy into a better act, and can get away with a larger spread for a longer time, then you might do even better.

I'd only recommend two-level counts for very experienced people, who are absolutely sure they can make ZERO mistakes for hours, while being distracted, talking, etc.

It's extremely dangerous to try an advanced count, when you aren't totally sure you're getting it right.

 

[zengrifter]

First of all, Your numbers are high. A level two count will not gain a 25% advantage over a level one count for a six deck game that the poster described.

Fact check needed: Will Halves give 25% more gain in 6D... IF there is optimal bet rezizing with BR growth? zg

 

[rukus]

Fact check needed: Will Halves give 25% more gain in 6D... IF there is optimal bet rezizing with BR growth? zg

probably closer to 10% gain over hi lo if i had to put a number on it. but still, i would call that significant enough...

 

[Renzey]

probably closer to 10% gain over hi lo if i had to put a number on it. but still, i would call that significant enough...

One other thing that isn't often mentioned: With a multi-level count, your mistakes tend to be smaller ones. With Halves for example, many of your missed or miscounted cards may involve a 2, 7 or 9 -- which is essentially putting your count off by half a card. You can't make that small of a mistake with Hi/Lo.

With multi-level counts, as with truing up to the "count-per-two-decks", you have a finer granularity. That usually provides greater accuracy, but what errors there are tend to be smaller ones.

 

[Polymath]

I'm currently having weird results with the Casino Verite simulators. I was wondering if someone would help me compute my data, which of course, is just for an estimate:

I am playing a S17 DAS at $5-$500 with 6 decks. I am starting at a $500 bankroll, using Wong Halves (no fractions). What would be my risk of ruin and optimal betting?

I was thinking of taking insurance if TC is +6 and using 1-4 bet spread (bet $5 below TC +4, bet $10 below +8, bet $15 below +12, and bet $20 above +12). But I am guessing that this will be taken care of in the computation.

Thanks.

 

[FLASH1296]

$500 /20 = 25 Max Bets That is rather conservative; BUT a spread of 4-1 is so tight that you may not even have a break even expectation.

If that is the case, your R.O.R. must approache 99.99% over time.