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Dopple

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I figure for a 3 day trip I will spend 30 hours on the table and that could get me a couple nice dinners with the players cards they offer.

Should red chippers player 5-35 bucks skip the cards to stay out of the radar.

Maybe radar does not care about us small guys?
 
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InPlay

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Dopple said:
I figure for a 3 day trip I will spend 30 hours on the table and that could get me a couple nice dinners with the players cards they offer.

Should red chippers player 5-35 bucks skip the cards to stay out of the radar.

Maybe radar does not care about us small guys?
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At the level depending at what casino you are playing at you will be lucky to get a couple of cupons for a $1.00 off your purchase at Burger King or Mickey D's.
 
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shadroch

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I don't know about radar,but many casinos will comp you a meal for that kind of play,and casino marketing may send you a free room or two in the future.
 
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Dopple

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Actually at that level of play I was able to get two nights lodging and $20 cash in Espanola Mexico.
 
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shadroch said:
I don't know about radar,but many casinos will comp you a meal for that kind of play,and casino marketing may send you a free room or two in the future.
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I am assuming at 5 to 35 spread about 15 average per hand. Let's say you play blackjack using perfect basic strategy, which results in about a 0.5% house edge. At $15/hand you can expect to lose:

$15/hand × 60 hands/hour × 0.5% house edge = $4.50/hr.

But the casino probably won't assume you're playing perfectly, because few people do. They might figure that you're playing at a 1-2% disadvantage.

With a 2% disadvantage they'd figure your comp value like so:

$15/hand × 60 hands/hour × 2% house edge × 25% rebate percentage = $4.50/hr

You said you will be playing 30 hours so figure 30 x 4.50 = $135.00 in theoratically comp dollars. I doubt if you get it. Most casino are putting another notch in the belt.
 
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Dopple

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Okay that sounds a little better. Even half that, or $60 in comp value, is a far cry from a couple $1.00 burger coupons.

Thanks for the insight.
 
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shadroch

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InPlay said:
I am assuming at 5 to 35 spread about 15 average per hand. Let's say you play blackjack using perfect basic strategy, which results in about a 0.5% house edge. At $15/hand you can expect to lose:

$15/hand × 60 hands/hour × 0.5% house edge = $4.50/hr.

But the casino probably won't assume you're playing perfectly, because few people do. They might figure that you're playing at a 1-2% disadvantage.

With a 2% disadvantage they'd figure your comp value like so:

$15/hand × 60 hands/hour × 2% house edge × 25% rebate percentage = $4.50/hr

You said you will be playing 30 hours so figure 30 x 4.50 = $135.00 in theoratically comp dollars. I doubt if you get it. Most casino are putting another notch in the belt.
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Your figures are a bit off. Its more like this:
$15X60 x5%( trust me,thats about what they use) x50% rebate when its for a casino owned restaurant.
 
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shadroch said:
Your figures are a bit off. Its more like this:
$15X60 x5%( trust me,thats about what they use) x50% rebate when its for a casino owned restaurant.
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So you are saying $2.25 a hour?
 
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shadroch

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My unscientific estimate is you should be able to wrangle an average bets worth of comps for every hour you play,once you learn how to milk the system.
 
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EasyRhino

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There is a risk of getting caught spreading with red chips and a players card, thus burning your (presumably real) identity at that joint for little more than a free omelette.

Oh God, the Reno flashbacks are returning...
 
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shadroch

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InPlay said:
You will never get $22.50 a hour playing at a spread of 5/35 per hour. You can take that to the bank.
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You keep thinking that way.
Lets say you get two nights at Harrahs ,Vegas for giving them ten hours of play over two days. Throw in a buffet dinner for two and the same for breakfast. What did you make an hour in comps?
 
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EasyRhino

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shadroch said:
You keep thinking that way.
Lets say you get two nights at Harrahs ,Vegas for giving them ten hours of play over two days. Throw in a buffet dinner for two and the same for breakfast. What did you make an hour in comps?
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I honestly don't think that you'd get enough points for 4 buffts flat betting $35 at a Harrah's property. Then again the system is awfully inscrutable. One day of ten hours would probably yield more than two days of five hours.
 
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shadroch said:
You keep thinking that way.
Lets say you get two nights at Harrahs ,Vegas for giving them ten hours of play over two days. Throw in a buffet dinner for two and the same for breakfast. What did you make an hour in comps?
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You will get your comps but not playing red. Lets price this out buffet about $25 per person, breakfeast about $12 per, todays rate at the Flamingo :

Thu. Jan 31st, '08 - Sat. Feb 2nd, '08
SUN MON TUE WED THUR FRI SAT
$115 $165
Average Nightly Rate: $140

So thats $74 for food plus a cheap room $115 x 2 = $230.00. Looks like a grand total of $304.00 in comps correct?

Your play is 5/35 for 10 hours with a average of bet of $15 per hand. One 5 hour session might earn you a buffet dinner for 1 if you suck up to the pit. At your calcuations figure out to about $30.40 per hour.

So you play 600 hands in 10 hours at $15 thats putting $9,000 into play. Casino figures to win 2% from you that's $180.00 of that you get 25% to 50% of that. I don't think so.
 
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shadroch

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The actual take from BJ at Harrahs is over 10%. They give you comps based on 5%.Harrahs ends up giving double comps. No matter how much or how little you get from the pitbosses and your players points,their marketing dept. will comp you as well.
It's not a matter of what they will give you,it's a matter of how much you can take before they say no.
You can believe it,or not. I really don't care. I'm getting mine.Thats all I really care about in the long run.
 
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