For my first post here I wanted to get some feedback on a snag that I've been running into. I have been counting for only a few months and feel comfortable going further, I have been playing basic omega 2 with the +6 and -6 strategies accurately, so now I feel that I can progress into using some more playing deviations. In BJFB Bryce talks about learning the "fabulous 18" ,which I know is the illustrious 18 and fabulous 4, but when looking at the tables in his book, comparing them with the tables for the same game on casino verite software I'm seeing variations in the indices so I'm not sure which one to go with. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
In BJFB the I18 values are as follows:
Insurance= take at +6 or greater
16 v 9 = stand at +7 or greater
16 v 10 =stand at 0 or greater
15 v 10 = stand at +6 or greater
13 v 2 = stand at -1 or greater (hit at -2, -3 etc)
13 v 3 =stand at -3 or greater (hit at -4 -5 etc)
12 v 2 =stand at +5 or greater
12 v 3 = stand at +2 or greater
12 v 4 =stand at 0 or greater
12 v 5 =stand at -2 or great (hit at -3 -4 etc)
12 v 6 = stand at -2 or greater (-5 for H17 games)
11 v A =double at +2 or greater
10 v 10 = double at +9 or greater
10 v A =double at +8 or greater
9 v 2 =double at 0 or greater
9 v 7 =double at 7 or greater
10,10 v 5 =split at +9 or greater (for when DAS is permitted)
10,10 v 6 =split at + 8 or greater (for when DAS is permitted)
on casino verite software though the values change slightly, according to them the I18 for multi deck H17 DAS permitted the table legend states "hit < value" so hit if the value is greater than (more positive) the number shown correct?
Insurance= same
16 v 9 = shows always hit
16 v 10 = hit at +6 or greater stand at less then +6
15 v 10 = hit at +6 or greater stand at less then +6
13 v 2 =hit at -5 or less (stand at -4 , -3 -2 etc)
13 v 3 = hit at -5 or less (stand at -4, -3 ,-2 etc)
12 v 2 = hit at +6 or greater (stand at +5, +4, +3 etc)
12 v 3 = hit at +6 or greater (stand at +5 +3 etc)
12 v 4 =hit at -5 or less (stand at -4, -3 etc)
12 v 5 =hit at -5 or less (stand at -4, -3 etc)
12 v 6 =hit at -5 or less (stand at -4, -3 etc)
For doubling the legend says "DD > = value" so I'm assuming that means, double down if the count is less than (more negative) the value shown?
11 v A = double at -5 or greater (hit at -4, -3, etc)
10 v 10 = says never double
10 v A = says never double
9 v 2 = double at -5 (hit at -4, -3 etc)
9 v 7 = double at +6
10,10 v 5 = says never split 10s
10,10 v 6=says never split 10s
I'm sure I'm reading the table wrong but I wanted clarification, to me it would make more sense to stand 16 v 10 if the true count was +6 or greater, so I'm guessing I just read the table wrong and I should be standing then instead of hitting like the table seems to read to me.
so even if that were the case if I read the table wrong and I do in fact stand 16 v 10 at a t.c. of +6 or greater, in BJFB it says stand at t.c. of 0 or greater, so which one am I supposed to go off of? The two sources seem to give different answers and I don't know which one to learn. Any help would be appreciated, as a new card counter this stuff is still foreign to me a little bit so I want to make sure I'm learning the right way so I don't make a costly error.
In BJFB the I18 values are as follows:
Insurance= take at +6 or greater
16 v 9 = stand at +7 or greater
16 v 10 =stand at 0 or greater
15 v 10 = stand at +6 or greater
13 v 2 = stand at -1 or greater (hit at -2, -3 etc)
13 v 3 =stand at -3 or greater (hit at -4 -5 etc)
12 v 2 =stand at +5 or greater
12 v 3 = stand at +2 or greater
12 v 4 =stand at 0 or greater
12 v 5 =stand at -2 or great (hit at -3 -4 etc)
12 v 6 = stand at -2 or greater (-5 for H17 games)
11 v A =double at +2 or greater
10 v 10 = double at +9 or greater
10 v A =double at +8 or greater
9 v 2 =double at 0 or greater
9 v 7 =double at 7 or greater
10,10 v 5 =split at +9 or greater (for when DAS is permitted)
10,10 v 6 =split at + 8 or greater (for when DAS is permitted)
on casino verite software though the values change slightly, according to them the I18 for multi deck H17 DAS permitted the table legend states "hit < value" so hit if the value is greater than (more positive) the number shown correct?
Insurance= same
16 v 9 = shows always hit
16 v 10 = hit at +6 or greater stand at less then +6
15 v 10 = hit at +6 or greater stand at less then +6
13 v 2 =hit at -5 or less (stand at -4 , -3 -2 etc)
13 v 3 = hit at -5 or less (stand at -4, -3 ,-2 etc)
12 v 2 = hit at +6 or greater (stand at +5, +4, +3 etc)
12 v 3 = hit at +6 or greater (stand at +5 +3 etc)
12 v 4 =hit at -5 or less (stand at -4, -3 etc)
12 v 5 =hit at -5 or less (stand at -4, -3 etc)
12 v 6 =hit at -5 or less (stand at -4, -3 etc)
For doubling the legend says "DD > = value" so I'm assuming that means, double down if the count is less than (more negative) the value shown?
11 v A = double at -5 or greater (hit at -4, -3, etc)
10 v 10 = says never double
10 v A = says never double
9 v 2 = double at -5 (hit at -4, -3 etc)
9 v 7 = double at +6
10,10 v 5 = says never split 10s
10,10 v 6=says never split 10s
I'm sure I'm reading the table wrong but I wanted clarification, to me it would make more sense to stand 16 v 10 if the true count was +6 or greater, so I'm guessing I just read the table wrong and I should be standing then instead of hitting like the table seems to read to me.
so even if that were the case if I read the table wrong and I do in fact stand 16 v 10 at a t.c. of +6 or greater, in BJFB it says stand at t.c. of 0 or greater, so which one am I supposed to go off of? The two sources seem to give different answers and I don't know which one to learn. Any help would be appreciated, as a new card counter this stuff is still foreign to me a little bit so I want to make sure I'm learning the right way so I don't make a costly error.