Playing under the influence?

#1
Recently i went to the casino when i was alittle buzzed of something little more green if you get what im saying. Although i never planned on doing this i was expecting to go but when asked went anyways with some friends.
Im pretty new to counting and havent had much success yet since with limited practice ( no casino at college, only at home) i still have alittle trouble keeping the count when the dealer is fast. While i was playing that day though i seemed to be able to keep up really well and stayed super focused on the game and had a pretty good winning period, Up like 85 units after two hours. Im not sure if this was just variance or if i actually was able to just focus better and actually had a very good edge for the first time. So i was just wondering what your guys opinions are of playing while buzzed and if anyone here has ever done it and how it was for them.
I dont plan on doing it again as it just sounds retarded as you should be on top of your game when you do plan to play but was just curious.
 
#2
collegebj said:
Recently i went to the casino when i was alittle buzzed of something little more green if you get what im saying. Although i never planned on doing this i was expecting to go but when asked went anyways with some friends.
Im pretty new to counting and havent had much success yet since with limited practice ( no casino at college, only at home) i still have alittle trouble keeping the count when the dealer is fast. While i was playing that day though i seemed to be able to keep up really well and stayed super focused on the game and had a pretty good winning period, Up like 85 units after two hours. Im not sure if this was just variance or if i actually was able to just focus better and actually had a very good edge for the first time. So i was just wondering what your guys opinions are of playing while buzzed and if anyone here has ever done it and how it was for them.
I dont plan on doing it again as it just sounds retarded as you should be on top of your game when you do plan to play but was just curious.
Adderal would be good for some counters' focus, no doubt, but not all. zg
 
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#3
collegebj said:
Recently i went to the casino when i was alittle buzzed of something little more green if you get what im saying. Although i never planned on doing this i was expecting to go but when asked went anyways with some friends.
Im pretty new to counting and havent had much success yet since with limited practice ( no casino at college, only at home) i still have alittle trouble keeping the count when the dealer is fast. While i was playing that day though i seemed to be able to keep up really well and stayed super focused on the game and had a pretty good winning period, Up like 85 units after two hours. Im not sure if this was just variance or if i actually was able to just focus better and actually had a very good edge for the first time. So i was just wondering what your guys opinions are of playing while buzzed and if anyone here has ever done it and how it was for them.
I dont plan on doing it again as it just sounds retarded as you should be on top of your game when you do plan to play but was just curious.
Recommend you avoid illicit drugs at the casino, for several reasons not the least of which is that it can make you not take your game as seriously as you should. At least until you are a very experienced AP. The difference between AP and gambling is the difference between wealth and success, and a life of poverty and misery.

I drink alcohol when playing, but carefully. Marijuana is very, very bad for me so I have never tried it when playing, but I have heard mixed reviews of it and more of them have been bad than good, so use caution.
 

forwhat77

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#4
Zen,,,you never cease to amaze me with your general knowledge. What the hell do you know about the differences between indica and sativa?:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

RJT

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#5
forwhat77 said:
Zen,,,you never cease to amaze me with your general knowledge. What the hell do you know about the differences between indica and sativa?:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Indica is the more body heavy, sleepy, dopy high. Far more common as the plants take up far less space yet give a far high yield. Sativa tends to be the connoisseur’s choice, but is very difficult to find these days. It gives a far more cerebral high and is the more likely to produce mild hallucinogenic effects.

I did play with a using both weed and alcohol is small quantities early on in my playing days (during practice only), but have to say that regardless of how i felt i'd done, when checks were introduced my mistake rate was notably higher. Personally i wouldn't recommend it.

RJT.
 
#6
forwhat77 said:
Zen,,,you never cease to amaze me with your general knowledge. What the hell do you know about the differences between indica and sativa?:laugh::laugh::laugh:
One is daytime medicine and the other is for chillin. z:cool:g
 
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Jack_Black

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#8
RJT said:
Indica is the more body heavy, sleepy, dopy high. Far more common as the plants take up far less space yet give a far high yield. Sativa tends to be the connoisseur’s choice, but is very difficult to find these days. It gives a far more cerebral high and is the more likely to produce mild hallucinogenic effects.

RJT.
That is not the case at all. Both strains are commercially available. Especially in states where marijuana dispensaries have become legalized. Although the most abundant strains are indica, eg. northern lights, skunk; however, sativa strains have been just as in demand as the indica strains, eg. maui wowie, purple haze. Not to mention the hybrids like ak-47.

although each patient can react differently to the "prescribed" medication, in general, indica is used primarily for pain relief. as it can induce "couch lock" and is more of a body high, with mentally numbing side effects, i.e. being "stoned." Sativa use in general, are for those that feel indica is too overpowering. As ZG stated, one is Dayquil, the other is Nyquil.
 

Jack_Black

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#9
CollegeBJ, how do you handle the effects of marijuana cigarettes, and other bi- products? if you can handle, being "high" most of the time. say, playing a musical instrument in front of an audience, or even getting up in front of an audience for that matter, I say that you know how to handle yourself with the devil weed. but since you are a novice counter, I don't recommend it. I am a proficient counter and I can count while having a pretty thick liquor buzz. I know that I can ease into my cover act more effectively while drunk. but I know myself, and I know I can't smoke and count. I would be too paranoid about my surroundings. hell, I'm paranoid all the time when I'm in a casino sober! I also know that I can't smoke weed and play my drums. But gimme a few shots of whiskey, and I can bang out a set easily. you might be just the opposite.
 

RJT

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#10
Jack_Black said:
Both strains are commercially available. Especially in states where marijuana dispensaries have become legalized.
We're not talking about medicinal use here - you go to your doc and tell him you want weed to help you play blackjack and see if you get the perscription. Also, i'm talking from a UK perspective - i doubt that the blackmarket in the US is that much different however. It simply doesn't make that much sense to grow a low yeilding pure sativa unless you have a market that not only demands it, but is prepared to pay well above the price of an indica.

RJT.
 

Jack_Black

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#11
RJT said:
We're not talking about medicinal use here - you go to your doc and tell him you want weed to help you play blackjack and see if you get the perscription. Also, i'm talking from a UK perspective - i doubt that the blackmarket in the US is that much different however. It simply doesn't make that much sense to grow a low yeilding pure sativa unless you have a market that not only demands it, but is prepared to pay well above the price of an indica.

RJT.
I actually told my doctor that I've been getting neck pains....or something like that. He asked me how frequent it was, and I responded, "kinda frequently, I suppose." He wrote my scrip with no hassle.

The US market demands sativa. I really see or hear no difference for demand, supply, or even special pricing for it. Also though, hybrids are more commonplace, and this might make up for the small yield that sativa produces. But even then, you can ask for indica dominant or sativa dominant hybrids. whether that be in legal or illegal states.
 

Southpaw

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#12
Have practiced after drinking a half-fifth of vodka on multiple occasions. Didn't make any errors on any of these occasions. If it is something you've practiced enough, you could probably do it effortlessly after smoking a blunt, drinking a fifth, all while getting a lap-dance.

SP
 
#14
lovethespaniard said:
I use a prescription - Nuvigil - to keep alert. It is for narcolepsy or shift work disorder. I work nights, so I got an Rx for it. It works great.
This is the best one of that ilk, you may wish to try it.
Your doc would have no problem giving you a trial, I think: Modafinil
 
#15
Jack_Black said:
CollegeBJ, how do you handle the effects of marijuana cigarettes, and other bi- products? if you can handle, being "high" most of the time. say, playing a musical instrument in front of an audience, or even getting up in front of an audience for that matter, I say that you know how to handle yourself with the devil weed. but since you are a novice counter, I don't recommend it. I am a proficient counter and I can count while having a pretty thick liquor buzz. I know that I can ease into my cover act more effectively while drunk. but I know myself, and I know I can't smoke and count. I would be too paranoid about my surroundings. hell, I'm paranoid all the time when I'm in a casino sober! I also know that I can't smoke weed and play my drums. But gimme a few shots of whiskey, and I can bang out a set easily. you might be just the opposite.
This time I hadn't smoked alot and it was much more of a head high so I was able to play pretty well. Ive always had a fear of performing in front of others but have never tried to do so stoned so I wouldn't know really. The point about being paranoid is one that worries me if I was to ever do this again. While counting if you did get paranoid while stoned you may not be able to count let alone play well. Weather or not the casino would care if your playing high or drunk while underage, as long as it's not off there alchohal, is debatable. In my opinion I think they would let you play thinking you would more prone to make stupid bets and lose your money.

And RJT, here in Michigan there are doctors who run commercials stating they specialize in writing prescriptions for med use. So a blackjack excuse might not work but a simple headache one will. Getting a card is easy. I won't get one simply because I don't want to the gov. Knowing my business.

Also here in Michigan you can get sativa and indicas pretty easily. For high grade stuff both are around the same price and the med shops will have multiple types of both.
 
#16
zengrifter said:
This is the best one of that ilk, you may wish to try it.
Your doc would have no problem giving you a trial, I think: Modafinil
I confess to having taken a yellow zinger (ephedra+caffeine) before a long session. The label recommends 3 a day. I take one, and it will be no less than 20 hours before I can sleep. 3 in a day and I'd be in the hospital. Monkeys & drugs is not a good combination.
 

Billy C1

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#17
collegebj said:
Recently i went to the casino when i was alittle buzzed of something little more green if you get what im saying. Although i never planned on doing this i was expecting to go but when asked went anyways with some friends.
Im pretty new to counting and havent had much success yet since with limited practice ( no casino at college, only at home) i still have alittle trouble keeping the count when the dealer is fast. While i was playing that day though i seemed to be able to keep up really well and stayed super focused on the game and had a pretty good winning period, Up like 85 units after two hours. Im not sure if this was just variance or if i actually was able to just focus better and actually had a very good edge for the first time. So i was just wondering what your guys opinions are of playing while buzzed and if anyone here has ever done it and how it was for them.
I dont plan on doing it again as it just sounds retarded as you should be on top of your game when you do plan to play but was just curious.
Are you certain you aren't looking for a reason to be a user (not unlike many of the "prescription" users)?

BillyC1
 
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Billy C1 said:
Are you certain you aren't looking for a reason to be a user (not unlike many of the "prescription" users)?

BillyC1
I don't need a reason to be a user. I believe once your an adult you should be able to do what you please with your body, as long as it's not hurting anyone else. This includes drugs.
 

metronome

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#19
zengrifter said:
This is the best one of that ilk, you may wish to try it.
Your doc would have no problem giving you a trial, I think: Modafinil
Gee Zen, Modafinil sounds like an amphetamine without the euphoria. :laugh:
Biphetamine and time released Preludin always did the trick when I was still drumming for a living.
Wonder what counting at BJ would've been like.
 
#20
RJT said:
Indica is the more body heavy, sleepy, dopy high. Far more common as the plants take up far less space yet give a far high yield. Sativa tends to be the connoisseur’s choice, but is very difficult to find these days. It gives a far more cerebral high and is the more likely to produce mild hallucinogenic effects.

I did play with a using both weed and alcohol is small quantities early on in my playing days (during practice only), but have to say that regardless of how i felt i'd done, when checks were introduced my mistake rate was notably higher. Personally i wouldn't recommend it.

RJT.
No, the active ingredient in all marijuana is THC and the difference between products is the quantity of THC you absorb from it. If you are getting a qualitatively different high from different products that can't be adjusted by using more or less, that means you are getting some adulterants. You wouldn't believe some of the things that are added to marijuana, out of ignorance or idiocy.
 
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