poker

mjbballar23

Well-Known Member
#2
sneakykid said:
Is there any good site or book i can read about poker? looking for only cash game info. I dont like tourneys
buy one book on no-limit hold'em to get you started and then load up money on pokerstars or full tilt and play the .01/.02 NL tables and practice. Post hand histories on twoplustwo.com and read hand discussions on there as well. I feel the best way to learn is just to play and try to lose as little as possible in the beginning. The other option to books is to subscribe to a poker training site such as cardrunners.com, duecescracked.com, stoxpoker.com.

btw, i beat 1/2 NL online and i've never read a book on no-limit hold'em. I met people via twoplustwo.com and learned from them and from cardrunners.com.
 

sneakykid

Active Member
#3
i do play on full tilt, i try to learn pot odds etc.

I play a lot of house games cash, its just .50/1, i wanna get good where i can start playing at the casino.

what do you mean you beat 1/2 NL? as in you won some?
 

Thunder

Well-Known Member
#6
I can teach you a little about poker but to be good enough to consistently win, requires stuff that isn't really teachable.

Here's how I rate poker players.

Newbie: Doesn't know yet which hands to play preflop and doesn't bet the appropriate amounts.

Beginner: Has a fairly good idea of which hands to play preflop but knows little about the importance of pot odds and chases after flushes and inside straights.

Intermediate: Knows the hands to play preflop, doesn't chase and knows when to fold. Can make good bets and bluffs but hasn't quite mastered reading people and how to manipulate them with his/her post flop play and acting.

Advanced. Has a firm grip of how to play poker and wins often. You will be scared to go heads up with them because they will likely outplay you. Post flop play is superb leaving you often times flustered when it comes to putting them on hands. Sometimes will make very sneaky bets and play crap as they know that being unpredictable is the key to winning in poker. If two or more of these players exist at the table, you're best off finding a new table.
 

mjbballar23

Well-Known Member
#7
One of the most important aspects of poker is adapting to each individual opponent to exploit their tendencies/weaknesses. This is something that is very hard to teach and falls more under the "feel" category.
 

MartyAce

Well-Known Member
#8
mjbballar23 said:
o ya that too. You need pokertracker or hold'em manager to beat .50/1 or higher
I don't agree with this.

There are a few smaller networks, such as the Cake network, that doesn't allow Heads up displays (pokertracker/holdem manager)/and or these softwares aren't supporting these sites. Yet the cake network supports prolly arond 10k people at prime time.

Now, the software will help you indentify the type of opponents you are playing against, and will also you to adjust your strategy.

Here is a few types for those who understand holdem and looking to improve:

Every session have a pad of paper next to you. and any situation that is even somewhat confusing, and note it down on pad of paper. AhKs river bet sizing is an example. Go over each hand at end of session.

Mind Reading Game – Hand ranges, always think about hand ranges. When not involved in a hand assign players to hand ranges, then when hand goes to showdown, can adjust range for opponents.

Detective Game – Note taking! Generally looking for at least one note on most of the players at the table. Generally the fish at the table should have 4-5 notes on them within an hour. Think about what type of fish they can be. Looking for things like bet sizing, possible timing tells, how do they play top pair versus 2pair, monsters vs draws, do they bluff?
Note down tendencies and not actions. Bets $5 into $20 with bottom pair, but shows the tendency that he bets his hand strength.


I have two modes I play in, one I'm just mass tabling and putting in a lot of hands without improving. The second I play 4 tables at most, and really work on the above. Mass tabling you will never improve because you are on autopilot.


I would agree however that you should look into training websites and watch videos as they will give you an up to date depiction of online player at the lower stakes.
 

mjbballar23

Well-Known Member
#9
Your right you dont need pokertracker/HEM but it definitely helps alot. I thought i read somewhere that Phil Ivey doesnt use a HUD when he plays online...
 
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