Question about a new shuffle.

mathman

mathman

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My home casino is changing their shuffle sometime soon. I've been informed by some of my favorite dealers that it has been described to them as a riff, strip, riff shuffle. Their games are 6 and 8 deck games so I'm wondering what a riff, strip, riff would consist of on a multiple deck game? Stripping to me usually applies to single deck games so I'm not sure how they'll work a strip into a multiple deck game. I may have seen this before but just don't remember. I realize the description is vague but it's possible that someone else is using it and these guys have been advised to change to that shuffle. I know I'm not the only tracker working this property and I'm thinking they must be concerned about this to want to change their shuffle.:eek: Any ideas on what this shuffle will be? I'd like to get a jump on it before hand if possible. Thanks for anticipated thoughts :grin:....JtMM:cool:
 
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The Chaperone

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You won't have enough information until you actually see the shuffle. Even if the dealers have been given the specifics of the shuffle, I would not trust a dealer to relay that information accurately. Also, nearly all multi-deck games (and all BJ games in general) use some type of stripping.
 
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Blue Efficacy

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The Chaperone said:
You won't have enough information until you actually see the shuffle. Even if the dealers have been given the specifics of the shuffle, I would not trust a dealer to relay that information accurately. Also, nearly all multi-deck games (and all BJ games in general) use some type of stripping.
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I wouldn't go so far as to say "nearly all." I have seen plenty of BJ shuffles that use a stepladder with no stripping.
 
moo321

moo321

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"Stripping" is when they hold the deck, take small packs from the top and put them on the bottom.

Sounds like a 2 or 3 pass shuffle, which probably isn't worth your time unless there are, uh vulnerabilities.
 
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Blue Efficacy

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moo321 said:
"Stripping" is when they hold the deck, take small packs from the top and put them on the bottom.

Sounds like a 2 or 3 pass shuffle, which probably isn't worth your time unless there are, uh vulnerabilities.
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No one said the riffle, the strip, and the riffle were on different passes.
 
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The Chaperone

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Blue Efficacy said:
I wouldn't go so far as to say "nearly all." I have seen plenty of BJ shuffles that use a stepladder with no stripping.
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That's why I said "nearly all" instead of "all." We're takling 90+% of shuffles in use today have some type of stripping.
 
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Blue Efficacy

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The Chaperone said:
I just defined nearly all as 90+%. And yes 90+% of ASMs strip. Quit being annoying.
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But do 90% of shuffles strip? And also since all ASMs currently in use at major casinos are shufflemasters, how do you account for the the 10% of ASMs that don't strip? Furthermore, how do you know ASMs strip? I read an article about them and how they work, and it didn't mention any stripping. Basically they have a random amount of riffles with a random number of cards, that is how they work.

I have played at many casinos, and can without a doubt say that the amount of casinos that lack stripping in their shuffles is >10%.

I'll quit being annoying when you quit professing to know what isn't so, much like the late, great Mr. FLASH.;)
 
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