Question I've been pondering

yesiamred

yesiamred

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Okie Dokie, just suppose this scenerio if you would please...Two years practicing counting, double counting, ace side tracking, true count conversion, 200 plus index numbers including surrendering(s), the whole works, etc., etc...

I enjoy playing blackjack very much and play a decent game but feel I would benefit tremendously by starting off being a spotter for 6 months to a year before starting out and playing on my own. How would one go about finding a position as a spotter and or find a mentor that would help me grow and learn even more? Certainly not put an add in the paper?

I had an opportunity around a year ago to be a spotter for this BP guy but it fell through. I was so dissapointed as I was being offered $20.00 an hour plus hotel, meals, flight and all other expenses paid. But the guy flipped out and moved to Ecuador or somewhere similar:(

Thanks guys and gals
 
Southpaw

Southpaw

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yesiamred said:
Okie Dokie, just suppose this scenerio if you would please...Two years practicing counting, double counting, ace side tracking, true count conversion, 200 plus index numbers including surrendering(s), the whole works, etc., etc...

I enjoy playing blackjack very much and play a decent game but feel I would benefit tremendously by starting off being a spotter for 6 months to a year before starting out and playing on my own. How would one go about finding a position as a spotter and or find a mentor that would help me grow and learn even more? Certainly not put an add in the paper?

I had an opportunity around a year ago to be a spotter for this BP guy but it fell through. I was so dissapointed as I was being offered $20.00 an hour plus hotel, meals, flight and all other expenses paid. But the guy flipped out and moved to Ecuador or somewhere similar:(

Thanks guys and gals
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I may be wrong, but I doubt that anyone is going to want to hire you, unless you can honestly prove that you've been grinding it out on your own for a while.

SP
 
yesiamred

yesiamred

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Southpaw said:
I may be wrong, but I doubt that anyone is going to want to hire you, unless you can honestly prove that you've been grinding it out on your own for a while.

SP
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Oh, I totally agree with you! I am most certainly ready to pass any test that is thrown my way. I am an excellent counter and can Ace track with exceptional accuracy. Just wanted some exposure to "the big time" since this gal is from the hicks, so to speak.
 
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MAZ

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yesiamred said:
Okie Dokie, just suppose this scenerio if you would please...Two years practicing counting, double counting, ace side tracking, true count conversion, 200 plus index numbers including surrendering(s), the whole works, etc., etc...

I enjoy playing blackjack very much and play a decent game but feel I would benefit tremendously by starting off being a spotter for 6 months to a year before starting out and playing on my own. How would one go about finding a position as a spotter and or find a mentor that would help me grow and learn even more? Certainly not put an add in the paper?

I had an opportunity around a year ago to be a spotter for this BP guy but it fell through. I was so dissapointed as I was being offered $20.00 an hour plus hotel, meals, flight and all other expenses paid. But the guy flipped out and moved to Ecuador or somewhere similar:(

Alright here's how it is. I am not an EOE. You must meet certain requirements to be able to associate with me.
Thanks guys and gals
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Alright here's how it is. I am not an EOE. You must meet certain requirements to be able to associate with me.

You must be hot
You must be able to travel for weeks at a time
If you are married you must be able to deal with the fact that you will like me way more than your husband and thus be able to deal with those consequences.
Your skills mean nothing to me as they probably aren't as good as you think, but may mean you're trainable. Besides counting is a poor way to make a living, you need more.
If the last whackjob was going to pay you $20 per hr, thats fine, it will save me a boatload of money.

If you cannot agree to any of these terms well than good for you. Take your skills and play on your own and make money for yourself. Any experience you get will be useful as long as you are not ignorant to them. Mentors aren't jobs for hire, get out there and play.

Of course if you meet all my requirements, contact me. :cool:
 
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RJT

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MAZ said:
If the last whackjob was going to pay you $20 per hr, thats fine, it will save me a boatload of money.
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No doubt it will. The last whackjob i got cost me a lot more than $20 and it didn't even last half an hour!

RJT.
 
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Machinist

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MAZ said:
Alright here's how it is. I am not an EOE. You must meet certain requirements to be able to associate with me.

You must be hot
You must be able to travel for weeks at a time
If you are married you must be able to deal with the fact that you will like me way more than your husband and thus be able to deal with those consequences.
Your skills mean nothing to me as they probably aren't as good as you think, but may mean you're trainable. Besides counting is a poor way to make a living, you need more.
If the last whackjob was going to pay you $20 per hr, thats fine, it will save me a boatload of money.

If you cannot agree to any of these terms well than good for you. Take your skills and play on your own and make money for yourself. Any experience you get will be useful as long as you are not ignorant to them. Mentors aren't jobs for hire, get out there and play.

Of course if you meet all my requirements, contact me. :cool:
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MAZ do you mind if a use your quotes above..??? I am not able to articulate guidelines as you have done so easily... Hmmmmm me thinks an ad on Craigs list with the above guidelines might garner a few hits......eh???????
HHMMMMMMMMM Now to figure out how to explain this is just a business deal to the wifey :whip::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Daddybo ???? are ya out there.....????? any ideas dbo ??????:rolleyes:

Machinist
 
Dyepaintball12

Dyepaintball12

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yesiamred said:
Okie Dokie, just suppose this scenerio if you would please...Two years practicing counting, double counting, ace side tracking, true count conversion, 200 plus index numbers including surrendering(s), the whole works, etc., etc...

I enjoy playing blackjack very much and play a decent game but feel I would benefit tremendously by starting off being a spotter for 6 months to a year before starting out and playing on my own. How would one go about finding a position as a spotter and or find a mentor that would help me grow and learn even more? Certainly not put an add in the paper?

I had an opportunity around a year ago to be a spotter for this BP guy but it fell through. I was so dissapointed as I was being offered $20.00 an hour plus hotel, meals, flight and all other expenses paid. But the guy flipped out and moved to Ecuador or somewhere similar:(

Thanks guys and gals
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Was the guy's name Nick?
 
blackjack avenger

blackjack avenger

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yesiamred said:
Two years practicing counting, double counting, ace side tracking, true count conversion, 200 plus index numbers including surrendering(s), the whole works, etc., etc...

I would benefit tremendously by starting off being a spotter for 6 months to a year before starting out and playing on my own.
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I am not sure if the above statements are mutually inclusive.

Perhaps you are as skilled at home as you claim, but when you begin play in a casino you probably should not try to employ all these skills at first.

There is a difference between citing indices 10 times in a row without error; you should be able to do that, and recalling the one 15v10 stand opportunity you come across after playing for multiple hours.

:joker::whip:
good cards
 
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blackjack avenger

blackjack avenger

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Southpaw said:
I may be wrong, but I doubt that anyone is going to want to hire you, unless you can honestly prove that you've been grinding it out on your own for a while.

SP
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If they grind it on their own for awhile then they may not need to join a team? The team concept is probably enticing because of a lack of funds. Though the team concept can still be useful given larger banks. I do see your point of having proven oneself in the trenches.

Was that english? It's 2:44 am

:joker::whip:
good cards
 
yesiamred

yesiamred

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Agreed

blackjack avenger said:
If they grind it on their own for awhile then they may not need to join a team? The team concept is probably enticing because of a lack of funds. Though the team concept can still be useful given larger banks. I do see your point of having proven oneself in the trenches.

Was that english? It's 2:44 am

:joker::whip:
good cards
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You are correct...Although I can recite all index numbers in a row without a mistake and etc, pooling bankrolls such as in team play does sound enticing. I am going to start grinding it out on my own, gain confidence, accuracy and learn to take in my surroundings a little bit better and rethink my decision in say 6 months or so.

Thanks everyone for inut, advice and, of course, your frankness; it is appreciated.
Red
 
Automatic Monkey

Automatic Monkey

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yesiamred said:
You are correct...Although I can recite all index numbers in a row without a mistake and etc, pooling bankrolls such as in team play does sound enticing. I am going to start grinding it out on my own, gain confidence, accuracy and learn to take in my surroundings a little bit better and rethink my decision in say 6 months or so.

Thanks everyone for inut, advice and, of course, your frankness; it is appreciated.
Red
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Good idea. The study you have done is far more than is necessary to be a good AP. All you really need to do is get a lot of money on the table when there are a lot of aces and 10's left, everything else is details.

Even as a team member a lot of the things you will be doing will be as an individual. Get experience, play well, play a lot, and being female of course you will attract attention from AP's and you will probably get contact info from any and every AP who sees you play. And some of it might even be for AP opportunities.
 
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paddywhack

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Automatic Monkey said:
Good idea. The study you have done is far more than is necessary to be a good AP. Get experience, play well, play a lot,
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After mastering the skills needed, the greatest benefit is to get in a lot of play time. All of the studying, book knowledge, and simulation exercises are great, but applying yourself in the actual "work environment" and getting away with it on a consistent basis is what will determine your success.

I wish you the best in your quest.
 
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