Questions about the following min and max bets

elias001

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Hi folks,

At my local casino, their high limit tables are as follows:

Public tables
$100 min & $5,000 max up to 3x spots

Private tables
$200 min & $5,000 max up to 3x spots

If I am using the KO system, and i varied my bets from $100 to $250 in $25 increments. Even if i end up winning from $100 to ($2200-$2900) per session. Would that make the casino upset? If I do a 1 to 10 betting spread, then the max bet for me would be $350. I am using fractional kelly. My local casino is like 30 - 40 mins bus ride and is a pain if I have to go to the suburbs especially in the winter months.

Thank you in advance
 

aceside

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As far as I know, nobody in the world is able to beat the game of blackjack. You have to be realistic in the first place.
 

Rebecca C

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No one will care about a 1-3.5 spread. What do you mean by $25 increments? Please explain your scheme more thoroughly, as it just sounds like you're betting a 1-3.5 spread, little more than gambling, which surely won't make the casino "upset". You mentioned a 1-10 spread, which would be 100-1000. Is that what you meant? Lots to discuss here; using common terminology, you can't get to a 1-10 spread with a $100 min and $350 max bet. Please explain.
 

elias001

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@Rebecca C So if I use a 1-5 spread, it would be 100, 200, 300, 400, 500. So i am going by an incremental increase of 100. I switched to 1/5 of 100 from 25, 50,...,125 using KO count. I am trying not to draw heat and have small enough bet increases to absorb the variance.
 

DSchles

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Are you trying to win money or just get rated and get some comps? You aren't going to win anything meaningful playing against a shoe and spreading 1-5. As Rebecca asked, you need to be much more specific. What are the precise rules of the game? At what K-O counts do you make each bet? How many index variations do you use, if any at all? Don't skimp on what you tell us if you expect to get meaningful responses.

Don
 

DSchles

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aceside said:
As far as I know, nobody in the world is able to beat the game of blackjack. You have to be realistic in the first place.
Why would you write such unfathomable drivel?

Don
 

elias001

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DSchles said:
Are you trying to win money or just get rated and get some comps? You aren't going to win anything meaningful playing against a shoe and spreading 1-5. As Rebecca asked, you need to be much more specific. What are the precise rules of the game? At what K-O counts do you make each bet? How many index variations do you use, if any at all? Don't skimp on what you tell us if you expect to get meaningful responses.

Don
@DSchles

The rules are 6 deck shoes. The dealer uses an automatic shuffler and the player's get to cut the shoe. BJ pays 3 to 2, One is allow to split any pairs. I forgot about the details on splitting aces and about whether surrender is allowed. Also no mid shoe entry.

I am planning to start increasing my bet from running count 4 onwards, and increase one quarter of a unit bet for every increase of 4 points count. So at 4, 8, 12, 16. 20. At each of those respective count, I increase the bet by $25. The min bet is $100.

The reason i am doing such a low spread is after seeing a lot of AP youtube vids (they are all part of the BJ apprenticeship community), they bet like $500/hand, then they would lose multiple thousands within a single shoe session. Everytime or every few times they lose, they have to climb back up to profitability. But because they go betting from $100 to $500 between one hand to the next. They bring attention to themselves. So when and after they lose, they then could get kicked out and have to find another place to play. This means they have a losing session. I am trying to make it so that the max bet spread I could lose at any one hand is much less than when I win a hand betting the max bet spread. This way, I can keep playing longer and I don't have so far to climb back up to profitability. I am sure it is an optimization and actually it feels like an optimization problem. Maximizing gains while minimizing loss.
 
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21forme

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DSchles said:
Why would you write such unfathomable drivel?

Don
Because aceside is nothing but a troll, as he's proven on all the other BJ forums. I've reported his post to Al and hopefully he'll be banned here, as well - the final BJ forum on which he can still post.
 
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