Quick question about BP's and team play

[Martinstatic]

One thing that I have puzzled over is the need for a big player.
Surely when the count is high the spotter can just raise their bet?
I can only think of 2 reasons why this would be needed, one of which I deemed useless;

1) The bp won't have to keep the count, simplifying wager calculation and count between the 2 people, spotter and bp.

2)It's less suspicious. ? Though I think that it's equally suspicious for a player to join betting big, and a minimum wage player randomly starting to bet big.

Please enlighten me.

PS. New to the boards, have been practising for about 3 months now.

 

[kewljason]

One thing that I have puzzled over is the need for a big player.
Surely when the count is high the spotter can just raise their bet?
I can only think of 2 reasons why this would be needed, one of which I deemed useless;

1) The bp won't have to keep the count, simplifying wager calculation and count between the 2 people, spotter and bp.

2)It's less suspicious. ? Though I think that it's equally suspicious for a player to join betting big, and a minimum wage player randomly starting to bet big.

Please enlighten me.

PS. New to the boards, have been practising for about 3 months now.

Well the whole concept to the big player team approach is to get significantly more money on the table without either party, the spotter or the big player spreading, which is a tip off to the casinos. The spotter generally leaves the table as soon as the big player sits down. Of course the problem with this approach now is that it is widely known.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

One thing that I have puzzled over is the need for a big player.
Surely when the count is high the spotter can just raise their bet?
I can only think of 2 reasons why this would be needed, one of which I deemed useless;

1) The bp won't have to keep the count, simplifying wager calculation and count between the 2 people, spotter and bp.

2)It's less suspicious. ? Though I think that it's equally suspicious for a player to join betting big, and a minimum wage player randomly starting to bet big.

Please enlighten me.

PS. New to the boards, have been practising for about 3 months now.

Yes, the second is theoretically why it's done. It also has the benefit of having the bulk of the bankroll only being handled by one person, for security. (At the same time, that one person also has the power to rip off everyone else on the team. Maybe teams like that should use a handicapped in a wheelchair as the BP because he can't take the money and run.)

One big problem with the method is that one person has to win enough to pay himself plus the spotter(s). That is compounded by the fact that most tables that allow a bet big enough to do this are no-mid-shoe-entry. So it starts out with a lot of inefficiency right out of the gate.

 

[Martinstatic]

Well the whole concept to the big player team approa...

Yes, the second is theoretically why it's done. It also...

Ah, thanks for the explanation.
I'm in Ireland so there's not much room for a bp to run off to.

 

[Dyepaintball12]

2)It's less suspicious. ? Though I think that it's equally suspicious for a player to join betting big, and a minimum wage player randomly starting to bet big.
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The casino would have no reason to believe a player who just hops in mid-shoe with a big bet is counting. People do that all the time.

 

[moo321]

2)It's less suspicious. ? Though I think that it's equally suspicious for a player to join betting big, and a minimum wage player randomly starting to bet big.
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The casino would have no reason to believe a player who just hops in mid-shoe with a big bet is counting. People do that all the time.

If that guy is betting table max, they will.