Red 7 - when to Wong out?

UnevenSeven

Active Member
Ok,

I know that the general advice is to leave a table when TC = -2 for Hi-Lo (source: Gamemaster) and to bet miniumum when RC < 0 (source: BBIB), but my question is, with an SC of -12 on a 6D shoe using Red 7, at what negative point do you leave the table i.e. when you think the count is not going to improve before the next shuffle. Would I, say, leave when the RC is < -22 if 5 decks are unplayed (i.e. doing a quasi TC conversion )?

Thanks in advance and regards to all

Laurence.
 

nottooshabby

Well-Known Member
Mr. Renzey was kind enough to respond to this exact question that I posted over a year ago . . .

"Page 154 of Bluebook II suggests to wong out of a 6 deck shoe after 1.5 decks have been played if the running count is 5 points below your starting count. This guideline is for the KISS III Count which mechanically, is the same as Red 7. The recommendation was just a single checkpoint tool and produces a true count of -1.8 at that shoe level. Since the IRC for KISS III is "9" and the IRC for Red 7 is "-12", you'd wong out with KISS III at "4" and with Red 7 at "-17" -- if you wanted to wong out at -1.8 true when 1.5 decks have been dealt.

Other wongout points can be readily established just by noting that with either system, the RC should rise by 2 points with each dealt deck. If you wanted to wong out at about -1.6 true with Red 7, those RC's would be "-18" with one deck gone; "-14" with two decks gone and "-11" with three decks gone."
 
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