Red7 betting ramp
- Thread starter V Lazlo
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CLUE: spread range is directly relational to your bankroll (expressed in number of units), which in turn will affect your risk of ruin. If your bankroll is unlimited, and there's no possibility of you ever running out of money, then your spread range can be anything you like.
Heat is also a consideration, as if you're likely to be asked to remove yourself from the table for spreading 1-20, your question is largely academic, as you'll have to keep it below 1-20 for your TC+4/5 bets (or R7 equivalent).
Start by looking at your bankroll. Depending on which book you read, there's a minimum number of units and a comfort level for different games. Flash, a contributor to the board, has recently written that he thinks 1,200 units are needed to protect yourself from tapping out when playing 8 deck games. 600 units I would think is a very bare minimum, but will still carry with it a risk of losing the lot.
If you're like me, and you don't play with a bankroll, then I think there are two answers, dependent on your standpoint:
(a) Spread as much as you can get away with and in correct correlation to the count but take it on the chin if a few max bet hands are losers and you're tapped out within the first shoe.
(b) Limit your spread relative to the amount you can take to the table when you play. I would think though that anything less than a 1-10 spread on an 8 deck shoe game will still carry a -EV (I spread 1-8 on six deck games and the overall +EV I have calculated to be around 0.5%).
When I started to learn to play BJ I adopted R7 as a count, but changed over shortly afterwards as Hi-Lo is much easier to analyse - the Hi-Lo TC's to R7 RCs conversions can be a pain. If you're sticking with R7, I would suggest investing in QFIT's casino verite software which I think I'm right in saying can analyse R7 situations, amongst many other counting systems.
Good luck.
Heat is also a consideration, as if you're likely to be asked to remove yourself from the table for spreading 1-20, your question is largely academic, as you'll have to keep it below 1-20 for your TC+4/5 bets (or R7 equivalent).
Start by looking at your bankroll. Depending on which book you read, there's a minimum number of units and a comfort level for different games. Flash, a contributor to the board, has recently written that he thinks 1,200 units are needed to protect yourself from tapping out when playing 8 deck games. 600 units I would think is a very bare minimum, but will still carry with it a risk of losing the lot.
If you're like me, and you don't play with a bankroll, then I think there are two answers, dependent on your standpoint:
(a) Spread as much as you can get away with and in correct correlation to the count but take it on the chin if a few max bet hands are losers and you're tapped out within the first shoe.
(b) Limit your spread relative to the amount you can take to the table when you play. I would think though that anything less than a 1-10 spread on an 8 deck shoe game will still carry a -EV (I spread 1-8 on six deck games and the overall +EV I have calculated to be around 0.5%).
When I started to learn to play BJ I adopted R7 as a count, but changed over shortly afterwards as Hi-Lo is much easier to analyse - the Hi-Lo TC's to R7 RCs conversions can be a pain. If you're sticking with R7, I would suggest investing in QFIT's casino verite software which I think I'm right in saying can analyse R7 situations, amongst many other counting systems.
Good luck.