ROR with a 200 and 400 unit BR ?

Discussion in 'General' started by Splittingten's, Sep 7, 2017.

  1. Splittingten's

    Splittingten's Well-Known Member

    Assuming "normal" rules what would the ROR for a 200 and 400 unit BR be, respectively? ( I know it depends on many many many factors but ball park numbers will do, thanks!
     
  2. Midwest Player

    Midwest Player Well-Known Member

    Usually the 200 or 400 number applies to max bet, but since you specified units I will give you an example. Assume double deck game h17, das with a $10 unit. If you are spreading 1 to 8 using BJA chapter 10 bets the risk of ruin is over 45% with 200 units, and with 400 units just over 20%. Still very high. 200 units is more like a trip bankroll than total bankroll. Numbers were from BJRM.
     
  3. Splittingten's

    Splittingten's Well-Known Member

    Hey, thanks a lot. I was planning on playing a 6d game, 1.5 decks/6 cut card placement, h17 DAS Double on any 2, Late surrender 1-12 spread with $5 being my base unit and I was planning on playing with $1,000 first then playing with another $1,000 if that first $1,000 is lost. For a total bank roll of 400.
     
  4. DSchles

    DSchles Well-Known Member

    You're woefully underbankrolled. Not possible to play this way for less than, say, $5,000 bank. And more would be better.

    Don
     
  5. Splittingten's

    Splittingten's Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your input Don, what do you estimate my ROR to be?
     
  6. Midwest Player

    Midwest Player Well-Known Member

    Again using BJRM, a 6d game, 1.5 decks/6 cut card placement, h17 DAS Double on any 2, Late surrender 1-12 spread with $5 being my base unit. With a total bank of $2,000 (400 units) risk of ruin is 33.41%. With a $5,000 bank ROR is still 6.45% which I consider still high.
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2017
  7. Splittingten's

    Splittingten's Well-Known Member

    I need to get a copy of BJRM. Amazingly useful book. Thanks for the info.
     
  8. Splittingten's

    Splittingten's Well-Known Member

    Would my ROR be higher at a $15 mininum table double deck game with a spread of 1-8 or a $5 min 6D game with a 1-12 spread? I'm pretty sure the ROR for a double deck game would be higher but just making sure.
     
  9. Midwest Player

    Midwest Player Well-Known Member

    BJRM is not a book, but software. I believe you can get it here. Let us know if this link still works.
    http://bjriskmanager.com/how-to-install/
     
  10. stopgambling

    stopgambling Well-Known Member

    How i did it( long ago) was using cvcx in the browser or blackjack attack 3 . Only using Max bet with a reasonable spread and just purely wong in or out. Occasionally i playing some neutral and slightly negative count . I didn't really have a bank then and I was trying to save .
     
  11. Midwest Player

    Midwest Player Well-Known Member

    You will get killed on the $15 double deck game. The ROR on a H17, DAS game with surrender is about 50% without surrender it is about 59% assuming $2,000 bankroll.
     
  12. stopgambling

    stopgambling Well-Known Member

    I would wong very aggresively on the 6 deck . I would sprinkle some DD( somewhat aggressive wong out) but using $60 as a top bet as well.
     
  13. Splittingten's

    Splittingten's Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your response. The link to BJRM does work.
    As far aw wonging a double deck shoe I don't have a very good chance at it because my casinos don't allow mid entry but I might be able to get away with it at one of the casinos if someone else is playing then they jump off the table. At the other casino they shuffle after someone leaves the table to allow no wonging on their DD game.
    I will let ya'll know how it goes.
     
  14. stopgambling

    stopgambling Well-Known Member

    wonging can also mean to wong out.
     

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