# ROR with a 200 and 400 unit BR ?

Discussion in 'General' started by Splittingten's, Sep 7, 2017.

1. ### Splittingten'sBanned

Assuming "normal" rules what would the ROR for a 200 and 400 unit BR be, respectively? ( I know it depends on many many many factors but ball park numbers will do, thanks!

2. ### Midwest PlayerWell-Known Member

Usually the 200 or 400 number applies to max bet, but since you specified units I will give you an example. Assume double deck game h17, das with a \$10 unit. If you are spreading 1 to 8 using BJA chapter 10 bets the risk of ruin is over 45% with 200 units, and with 400 units just over 20%. Still very high. 200 units is more like a trip bankroll than total bankroll. Numbers were from BJRM.

3. ### Splittingten'sBanned

Hey, thanks a lot. I was planning on playing a 6d game, 1.5 decks/6 cut card placement, h17 DAS Double on any 2, Late surrender 1-12 spread with \$5 being my base unit and I was planning on playing with \$1,000 first then playing with another \$1,000 if that first \$1,000 is lost. For a total bank roll of 400.

4. ### DSchlesWell-Known Member

You're woefully underbankrolled. Not possible to play this way for less than, say, \$5,000 bank. And more would be better.

Don

5. ### Splittingten'sBanned

Thanks for your input Don, what do you estimate my ROR to be?

6. ### Midwest PlayerWell-Known Member

Again using BJRM, a 6d game, 1.5 decks/6 cut card placement, h17 DAS Double on any 2, Late surrender 1-12 spread with \$5 being my base unit. With a total bank of \$2,000 (400 units) risk of ruin is 33.41%. With a \$5,000 bank ROR is still 6.45% which I consider still high.

Last edited: Sep 7, 2017
7. ### Splittingten'sBanned

I need to get a copy of BJRM. Amazingly useful book. Thanks for the info.

8. ### Splittingten'sBanned

Would my ROR be higher at a \$15 mininum table double deck game with a spread of 1-8 or a \$5 min 6D game with a 1-12 spread? I'm pretty sure the ROR for a double deck game would be higher but just making sure.

9. ### Midwest PlayerWell-Known Member

BJRM is not a book, but software. I believe you can get it here. Let us know if this link still works.
http://bjriskmanager.com/how-to-install/

10. ### stopgamblingWell-Known Member

How i did it( long ago) was using cvcx in the browser or blackjack attack 3 . Only using Max bet with a reasonable spread and just purely wong in or out. Occasionally i playing some neutral and slightly negative count . I didn't really have a bank then and I was trying to save .

11. ### Midwest PlayerWell-Known Member

You will get killed on the \$15 double deck game. The ROR on a H17, DAS game with surrender is about 50% without surrender it is about 59% assuming \$2,000 bankroll.

12. ### stopgamblingWell-Known Member

I would wong very aggresively on the 6 deck . I would sprinkle some DD( somewhat aggressive wong out) but using \$60 as a top bet as well.