Selling chips better than mousing, if you can get away with it.

[ArcticInferno]

Mousing is the act of dropping the chips off the table into your pocket with subterfuge.
The reason is to minimize the apparent winnings.
A heaping pile of chips in front of you can be embarrassing.
Several times, I was able to “sell” my chips to a neighbor.
The most was $2k and the least was $500.
My usual excuse is to avoid waiting in the line at the cashiers cage.
However, I tried it at Trump Plaza in Atlantic City and the dealer stopped the transaction.
He called the floor supervisor over.
I didn’t pursue it further to avoid making a scene. I usually don’t want to do anything for them to remember me by.
Should I have pressed the issue further and tried to sell my chips despite their objections?
Fighting would defeat the purpose of not trying to draw attention in the first place.
What’re my rights?

 

[Southpaw]

On the subject of dealers stopping chip transactions at the table, I witnessed something the other day while playing at a local store that somewhat surprised me.

I was playing at a table with a couple that were probably in their early 20's. The real "lovey dovey" type, they were. These two love-birds were absolutely atrocious blackjack players, though. They were the type that "played it safe" by not doubling their 10's & 11's vs. small up-cards. They also occasionally would stand with numbers as low as 13 v. paint. Thank God for these recreational types, so that the casino can afford to keep the lights on for players like you and I.

Anyways, at one point, the girl--to no one's surprise--eventually tapped out. Her boyfriend handed 2 red chips, so that she could remain in the game. He was quickly scolded by the dealer, asserting that the player had to ask the dealer's permission to give chips to his girlfriend.

I don't know if this is typical or not, but it came as somewhat of a surprise to me.

SP

 

[Jack_Black]

Most jurisdictions don't allow transactions between players. but then again, underage drinking isn't allowed, and it still happens. sometimes you get anal retentive, by the book dealers, and sometimes you get "do whatever you want, just tip me." dealers.

 

[paddywhack]

Several times, I was able to “sell” my chips to a neighbor.

I think that's a very uncommon act. I wouldn't try it just for the fact that since it is so unusual, the dealer/PC/whoever would have a better likelihood of remembering me.

Her boyfriend handed 2 red chips, so that she could remain in the game. He was quickly scolded by the dealer,asserting that the player had to ask the dealer's permission to give chips to his girlfriend. SP

I don't think there's a problem here except most places don't want the chip transaction to occur "on" or "over" the table. You must hand them "off" the table. Works the same way when buying or contributing to someone's double or split.

 

[mathman]

Most jurisdictions don't allow transactions between players. but then again, underage drinking isn't allowed, and it still happens. sometimes you get anal retentive, by the book dealers, and sometimes you get "do whatever you want, just tip me." dealers.

I agree that there is some unwritten rule that you must buy and sell your cheques from/to the casino only. However it is dealer/casino dependent and I've done this many times, sometimes successful and sometimes not. I never argue, just apologize to not bring any attention to myself. What I have done many, many times is have my "friend" come up and take cheques as if he's gone broke and needs cheques from me. I grab a handful and hand them to him and nobody besides us knows how many cheques I gave him. That seems to bring the least attention, if any at all....JtMM

 

[bosox164]

Recently at FW

This guy drops $600 cash on the table and tells the dealer he wants $500 in green and $100 in red. It's a $10 table so he proceeds to put $5 on his bet circle and another $5 on match the dealer. Two hands like this was enough for him so he picks up everything and leaves. The dealer asks him to let him color his chips but he just walks away in disgust over his $20 loss. This leaves the dealer with hardly any green because he was already low anyway. Transactions begin between players and the dealer was pretty happy about it as it held him over for about 15 minutes until the fresh chip posse arrived. The dealer should have probably asked players for their excess chips but I think he was still steaming over the $600 hit-and-run and didn't care.