My local casino, Seven Luck is now offering "Seven Luck 21" with $10 min, $300 maximum at one table. It is basically Spanish 21, (all pip tens taken out) and 8d. In the past I have always avoided variation games because I was too busy trying to learn real BJ to get distracted by them. But from various sources, it is stated that Spanish offers good starting odds for perfect basic strategy, in fact better than regular BJ depending on the rules. The problem is that it is harder to play perfect BS due to the strange bonus payouts, double opportunities and hand makeup. If any of you play Spanish 21 with any frequency, I would like to know which of these are normal Spanish 21 rules and which are not. Additionally, I would like to know how much edge the player or house has with the following rules in the game they offer, with perfect BS, and which card counting system is recommended for Spanish. --------------------- "SEVEN LUCK 21" - Players natural 21 beats dealers natural 21 and pays 3 to 2 - Players Hard 21 beats any dealers 21 - Players soft 21 pushes any dealers 21 including natural - Redouble allowed up to 2 extra times on any hand (for example, player has S13 against dealers 6 and doubles. An A is dealt to make S14, and player can double again. A 2 is dealt to make S16, the player can double one final time to make 4x original bet) - Pairs may be split up to four times, Double after splits allowed. One card per split Aces. - Surrender allowed at any point with any number of cards - Special Payouts, paid immediately: 7-7-7 same suit - 10:1 7-7-7 mixed suit - 3:1 6-7-8 same suit - 3:1 5 card hard 21 - 3:2 Finally, the pamplet says "Dealer stands on Hard 17 and draws to Soft 17". I'm assuming this means they hit Soft 17? ---------- In the Big Book of Blackjack by Snyder, he writes that perfect BS brings house edge to .4 if dealer stays S17 and .8 if dealer hits. He also writes that the .8 goes up to .4 if redoubling is allowed as in the game above. The wizard of odds site gives various odds to certian Spanish rules. There is no mention in either of how of how the favorable 21 rules, Surrender, and splits and DAS rules affect the edge. Is it possible this game has player edge for perfect BS play? I know the special payouts make negligible difference. Additionally, Snyder recommends the Red Seven Count, which I guess would make sense to use an unbalanced count (starting at -48 for 8d spanish 21) My general feeling on this research is that this game offers good odds. Anyone care to elaborate???