The other day when I played, I was shocked to see a man who I would describe as borderline retarded playing Blackjack. It kind of sickens me to see the casinos prey on people like this who obviously don't have the functional capability to truly be aware of the ramifications of their gambling or have the ability to even do somewhat well in BJ. I didn't have the heart to tell the guy I didn't think he should be playing BJ so instead I helped him quite a bit as he was a pretty nice guy. Your thoughts?
Should casinos forbid people with developmental disabilities from playing?
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It could be the basis of a lawsuit eventually, sort of like what happens if you give a retardate alcohol and harm comes to him, or if you sexually abuse one- the argument is that you were dealing with a person whom you should have known did not have adult reasoning powers.
But on the other hand it might be a valid form of AP- send a retarded "Big Player" to a craps table and if he loses, get his advocate to demand the money back as they shouldn't have allowed him to play. The bad press alone would probably force a settlement.
But on the other hand it might be a valid form of AP- send a retarded "Big Player" to a craps table and if he loses, get his advocate to demand the money back as they shouldn't have allowed him to play. The bad press alone would probably force a settlement.
Yet if they turned one away,you'd see the endless greed some lawyers have.
It's not the casino's job to be a babysitter. If the person was capable of getting himself to a casino, and had money to buy chips, why shouldn't he be allowed to play? If he's truly bad off,someone( not the casino) should be looking out for him.
It's not the casino's job to be a babysitter. If the person was capable of getting himself to a casino, and had money to buy chips, why shouldn't he be allowed to play? If he's truly bad off,someone( not the casino) should be looking out for him.
Casino greed aside, in order to avoid legal issues they'd have to have some objective measure for denying play on the basis that someone is not mentally competent to play. Never.going.to.happen.
I told my daughter if she ever has children and if I ever tell her to bring them to the casino to meet me - send me to GA! Grandma should be home playing Candyland and baking cookies, not sitting at the casino.
I told my daughter if she ever has children and if I ever tell her to bring them to the casino to meet me - send me to GA! Grandma should be home playing Candyland and baking cookies, not sitting at the casino.
Was the guy a pit boss from the casino next door?
But seriously, folks, you could make the case that the BRD (the Borderline Retarded Dude) is the ideal person to play BJ. Yes, he's going to lose his money--JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE! He might lose a bit more rapidly, but he can't even touch the -15% that some "normal" players are facing at some carnival games. Since he is a BRD, maybe he plays BJ slowly.
Here's the thing, that we can't tell without delving into his family life--maybe he can easily afford some occasional gambling. Think about it. Let's say his family is rich. They might not let BRD even handle his own money, but perhaps sometimes they give him play money to go gamble, and the casino is a safe place to send him for the afternoon. For BRD, playing BJ may be one of life's greatest pleasures! He might look forward to being at a table with other normal people, who for once don't shun him (because THEY are too addicted to BJ to leave the table). He feels connected. Maybe he gets to do this sometimes in "Fabulous Las Vegas." And, because he may not really appreciate the value of the money he is losing, he is immune to any feelings of guilt or loss after the session is over. Furthermore, his handlers are the ones who dole out the money, and perhaps drive him to the casino, so they are much more able to control any budding problem gambling that might occur, much more so than with normal people.
In fact, BRD's situation might be a powerful, heart-warming story.
But seriously, folks, you could make the case that the BRD (the Borderline Retarded Dude) is the ideal person to play BJ. Yes, he's going to lose his money--JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE! He might lose a bit more rapidly, but he can't even touch the -15% that some "normal" players are facing at some carnival games. Since he is a BRD, maybe he plays BJ slowly.
Here's the thing, that we can't tell without delving into his family life--maybe he can easily afford some occasional gambling. Think about it. Let's say his family is rich. They might not let BRD even handle his own money, but perhaps sometimes they give him play money to go gamble, and the casino is a safe place to send him for the afternoon. For BRD, playing BJ may be one of life's greatest pleasures! He might look forward to being at a table with other normal people, who for once don't shun him (because THEY are too addicted to BJ to leave the table). He feels connected. Maybe he gets to do this sometimes in "Fabulous Las Vegas." And, because he may not really appreciate the value of the money he is losing, he is immune to any feelings of guilt or loss after the session is over. Furthermore, his handlers are the ones who dole out the money, and perhaps drive him to the casino, so they are much more able to control any budding problem gambling that might occur, much more so than with normal people.
In fact, BRD's situation might be a powerful, heart-warming story.
I don't know, it's used euphemistically these days alongside being a legitimate condition. If you're rich and white, your kid is "autistic." If you're poor and something else, he's "retarded." Sort of like the difference between being crazy and eccentric.
That said, I don't think the casinos can administer an IQ test to see who is too retarded to play. Although they are supposed to and sometimes actually do refuse to deal to a drunk. And some retardates have the legal status of children, so if it's illegal to let a kid play why wouldn't it be illegal to let one of them play? Hell, they are usually considered legally incapable of consenting to sex. That would be a lot worse than not being allowed to play BJ.
That said, I don't think the casinos can administer an IQ test to see who is too retarded to play. Although they are supposed to and sometimes actually do refuse to deal to a drunk. And some retardates have the legal status of children, so if it's illegal to let a kid play why wouldn't it be illegal to let one of them play? Hell, they are usually considered legally incapable of consenting to sex. That would be a lot worse than not being allowed to play BJ.
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To bar or not to bar the handicapped
An uprighteous and solid Pitboss is the one who will make the correct decision to bar or not to bar the handicapped. Just like Thunder, I had seen some handicapped blackjack players, and I had felt sorry for them---especially the blind blackjack players in Hilton. Should casinos bar all handicapped bj players? Of course not. It's a case by case decision of a pitboss --- who surely should not bar all handicapped, especially the handicapped Regina Guzior. She is a blind blackjack player who had played against Ken Smith, James Grosjean, Micky Rosa, etc... in bj tournaments. I kid you not, here's her:
An uprighteous and solid Pitboss is the one who will make the correct decision to bar or not to bar the handicapped. Just like Thunder, I had seen some handicapped blackjack players, and I had felt sorry for them---especially the blind blackjack players in Hilton. Should casinos bar all handicapped bj players? Of course not. It's a case by case decision of a pitboss --- who surely should not bar all handicapped, especially the handicapped Regina Guzior. She is a blind blackjack player who had played against Ken Smith, James Grosjean, Micky Rosa, etc... in bj tournaments. I kid you not, here's her:
