I have been playing blackjack full time in atlantic city for over a year now. I have had better success than I enan imagined, However, in checking my very detailed records, I have noticed that I have losing numbers at both casinos (there are only two) that use shuffle machines (borgata and trump marina) These AREN'T continuous shuffle machines but rather shuffle at the end of a shoe, saving the down time. The rules are very favorable at both places with 70-75 penatioan which is about standard for ac, but yet unlike other casinos with similar rules, I have a losing record at both places. I'm starting to think maybe the shuffle by these machines isn't completely random. any comments??
shufflemaster shuffle machines
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Unless you can SHUFFLE TRACK.....
I would expect that your long-term EV should be/eventually will become MUCH higher on ASM's (Automated Shuffle Machines) than on the Standard Hand-shuffles, which seem to take 5 min. when you are losing, 8 when even, and about 30 when ahead. Quite simply, MORE HANDS PER HOUR/SESSION!
The fact that your current personal #'s do not coincide with this is, as A.M., pointed out above, simply a mathematical glitch, i.e., that BITCH called VARIANCE!
Now, once you learn ST'ing AND can find a TS (Trackable Shuffle), then you would always chose a "HAND_JOB" when the choice is present.
Want to learn ST'ing???
Here is what I did:
---1. Bought George C.'s book, read it twice, and got confused.
---2. Bought Snyder's book, read it once, and got confused.
---3. Bought CV "Package", including CV Shuffle, which has ST'ing training/drills included...loaded it onto my computer, and "keep meaning to check it out".
---4. Bought and read Barafakel's "You've Got Heat"....in a couple of paragraphs, he makes it so simple, that even I can do it!!! Now, with this knowlege, I plan to attend to #'s 1,2,3 above again, and this time, I suspect I will get it!
Hope this helps.
Phantom007.
I would expect that your long-term EV should be/eventually will become MUCH higher on ASM's (Automated Shuffle Machines) than on the Standard Hand-shuffles, which seem to take 5 min. when you are losing, 8 when even, and about 30 when ahead. Quite simply, MORE HANDS PER HOUR/SESSION!
The fact that your current personal #'s do not coincide with this is, as A.M., pointed out above, simply a mathematical glitch, i.e., that BITCH called VARIANCE!
Now, once you learn ST'ing AND can find a TS (Trackable Shuffle), then you would always chose a "HAND_JOB" when the choice is present.
Want to learn ST'ing???
Here is what I did:
---1. Bought George C.'s book, read it twice, and got confused.
---2. Bought Snyder's book, read it once, and got confused.
---3. Bought CV "Package", including CV Shuffle, which has ST'ing training/drills included...loaded it onto my computer, and "keep meaning to check it out".
---4. Bought and read Barafakel's "You've Got Heat"....in a couple of paragraphs, he makes it so simple, that even I can do it!!! Now, with this knowlege, I plan to attend to #'s 1,2,3 above again, and this time, I suspect I will get it!
Hope this helps.
Phantom007.
SImply not enough trials
Once you play 1000 hours at the machine you may have something to report, but I think the results you are claiming are anecdotal at best, and hardly representative of a long term bias.
The truth is these machines are not random, because they use an algorithm to shuffle. But that algorithm is not based on reading the values of the cards, or knowing the composition of the decks to be shuffled. It is simply a positional swap -- like this:
Once you play 1000 hours at the machine you may have something to report, but I think the results you are claiming are anecdotal at best, and hardly representative of a long term bias.
The truth is these machines are not random, because they use an algorithm to shuffle. But that algorithm is not based on reading the values of the cards, or knowing the composition of the decks to be shuffled. It is simply a positional swap -- like this:
Code:
for (i = 0; i < number_of_cards; i++) {
pick a random index j at random among 1, 2, ... number_of_cards - i
expel card j into the finished deck
}Thanks Double-o-Seven *LINK*
Thanks for the kudos re: my book. I should point out that those few simple paragraphs in You've Got Heat refer to simple cut-off tracking, not the more sophisticated and harder to master skill of full-on shuffle tracking.
I tried to make the concepts in the book understandable to a layman. If I can master shuffle tracking by the time the sequel is (hopefully) published, I'll write about that subject in a simple and understandable way as well.
Now all I have to do is become proficient at shuffle tracking. It's a tough job, but hey...I'll do anything for my readers. In my current trip report, one of the parts that was not copied here by Zengrifter, I reluctantly consent to have sex with a hooker, just to spice up the narrative.
I hope you guys appreciate the sacrifices I make just to keep the readers entertained
Cheers,
Barfarkel
Thanks for the kudos re: my book. I should point out that those few simple paragraphs in You've Got Heat refer to simple cut-off tracking, not the more sophisticated and harder to master skill of full-on shuffle tracking.
I tried to make the concepts in the book understandable to a layman. If I can master shuffle tracking by the time the sequel is (hopefully) published, I'll write about that subject in a simple and understandable way as well.
Now all I have to do is become proficient at shuffle tracking. It's a tough job, but hey...I'll do anything for my readers. In my current trip report, one of the parts that was not copied here by Zengrifter, I reluctantly consent to have sex with a hooker, just to spice up the narrative.
I hope you guys appreciate the sacrifices I make just to keep the readers entertained
Cheers,
Barfarkel
How much did she pay you?...
And do you mean to indicate that "Cut-off Tracking" is different than "Shuffle-Tracking"? Damn, something else to learn!
Suggested title for sequel: "YOU'RE IN HEAT!...More adventures of a Card Counter turned Gigilo".
EXERT: "Played an hour at my hotel's 65% pen. DD'er. Up $345. plus a pack of smokes and a buffet comp. Then turned a trick for Velma, a 74 y.o. tourist from Baltimore. She paid my usual fee of $150., plus a $20. tip. Sold her my Buffet comp for $10. Now up $525. for the trip! Went to Walgreen's for batteries, subtract $15. Wonder how I am going to plug these #'s into the Risk Analyzer? Wonder if I can get my Host to start comping me batteries?'
"Asked Grift to join me on a Team venture...said he would play CSM's with lousy rules before he would start doing 74 y.o.'s...."
GRIN.
phantom007.
And do you mean to indicate that "Cut-off Tracking" is different than "Shuffle-Tracking"? Damn, something else to learn!
Suggested title for sequel: "YOU'RE IN HEAT!...More adventures of a Card Counter turned Gigilo".
EXERT: "Played an hour at my hotel's 65% pen. DD'er. Up $345. plus a pack of smokes and a buffet comp. Then turned a trick for Velma, a 74 y.o. tourist from Baltimore. She paid my usual fee of $150., plus a $20. tip. Sold her my Buffet comp for $10. Now up $525. for the trip! Went to Walgreen's for batteries, subtract $15. Wonder how I am going to plug these #'s into the Risk Analyzer? Wonder if I can get my Host to start comping me batteries?'
"Asked Grift to join me on a Team venture...said he would play CSM's with lousy rules before he would start doing 74 y.o.'s...."
GRIN.
phantom007.
