So this guy says to me.................

[shadroch]

Scott,
Thats about the tenth post you've made on Oscars Grind,without having a clue as to how it works.Why not try reading Arnold Snyders take on it,at least he has a clue to its methods.
With a $200 BR,betting dollar units,you have somewhere over 85% chance of showing a small profit.Compare that to someone flat betting $1(if you can find a $1 table) and using perfect BS(which is even rarer than the $1 table).

 

[supercoolmancool]

Scott,
Thats about the tenth post you've made on Oscars Grind,without having a clue as to how it works.Why not try reading Arnold Snyders take on it,at least he has a clue to its methods.
With a $200 BR,betting dollar units,you have somewhere over 85% chance of showing a small profit.Compare that to someone flat betting $1(if you can find a $1 table) and using perfect BS(which is even rarer than the $1 table).

Trust me, Scotth knows Oscar's Grind. You should listen to him.

 

[person1125]

No offense,but thats exactly how people come to believe in systems like the Martingale.Using that,you'd be hard pressed not to be ahead at the end of of one or two or even four shoes.

No offense taken. I really didn't think of it that way and you're right chances are you would be up after 1 shoe. You would have to set up a sim using say Oscar Grind and run it over thousands of hands to get a better idea of the long term.

I have a question though : I'm assuming we are still talking about a using a progressive system with perfect BS. What if you were to combine counting with a progressive system? Instead of always betting 2 units at a TC of +2 you would vary your bet depending on the results of the previous hand. So with a TC of +2 your bet could range from 2 - 4 units depending. I have my thoughts on this, but just want to see what you guys think.

anyone interested it looks like you can find the book rogue1 was talking about here:
(Dead link: http://www.bestwebbuys.com/9780806513966)

 

[Automatic Monkey]

You very well might,but the 4,999 who don't lose will disagree with you.
Besides,there is nothing that says you need to keep going after you lose X amount. There is no reason to play until you are broke.When I use it on roulette,I play $1 or $2 chips,play until I win 20 units or lose 100.As long as you win 5 out of 6 or more sessions,you are ahead.
Is it profitable? Not really. But it gets me logged in on something besides a BJ table,which is not a bad deal,and roulette tends to be a much more social game than BJ.

If I were one of the winners, I would mind. So I'm going to win $20 and my neighbor is going bankrupt and being homeless. I'd be happy to give the casino back their $20 if they give him back his $100K.

You are right that money management techniques can keep you out of the homeless shelter and render you a small loser instead of a big loser. But what the hell for? Why would anyone reading this website want to go into a casino and be any kind of a loser, when they can play with an advantage instead? I'd rather take my metal detector out on to the beach and take my chances with a big score that way, and at the very least I'll dig up a couple of dollars in change.

 

[sagefr0g]

...... I'd rather take my metal detector out on to the beach and take my chances with a big score that way, and at the very least I'll dig up a couple of dollars in change.

i found a diamond ring with mine and a bunch of other rings, jewerly, coins ect. but the diamond ring has been the best find.

 

[Kasi]

I have a question though : I'm assuming we are still talking about a using a progressive system with perfect BS. What if you were to combine counting with a progressive system? Instead of always betting 2 units at a TC of +2 you would vary your bet depending on the results of the previous hand. So with a TC of +2 your bet could range from 2 - 4 units depending.[/URL]

I'm sure u won't be surprised, in general, I think it sucks lol.

Why change your betting system not knowing the effects?

But, you know, why not if that's what u want to do! But I'd say you're no longer card-counting.

 

[zengrifter]

WRONG FORUM!! BELONGS IN VOODOO!!

 

[shadroch]

AM,
I wasn't suggesting anyone here switch to OG,I was talking about the very casual gambler looking for a simple system for his weekend in Vegas.

 

[ScottH]

Scott,
Thats about the tenth post you've made on Oscars Grind,without having a clue as to how it works.Why not try reading Arnold Snyders take on it,at least he has a clue to its methods.
With a $200 BR,betting dollar units,you have somewhere over 85% chance of showing a small profit.Compare that to someone flat betting $1(if you can find a $1 table) and using perfect BS(which is even rarer than the $1 table).

Well, if you can't find a 1 dollar table, then tell me, how are you going to use 1 dollar units for your grind?!

That's a rhethorical question btw, I already know the answer. I've done all that I can here. Grind away Shadroch. End of discussion.

 

[rogue1]

so let me ask this

Is there anyone who agrees with Donald Dahl that playing perfect Basic Strategy and increasing bets after wins can help a player to win?
Also,have any of you read Blackjack for the 21st Century by Walter Thomason? He too says you can win at blackjack using a Progressive Betting System.

 

[Sonny]

Is there anyone who agrees with Donald Dahl that playing perfect Basic Strategy and increasing bets after wins can help a player to win?

Nope, not in the long run. Progressions are not winning systems.

Also,have any of you read Blackjack for the 21st Century by Walter Thomason? He too says you can win at blackjack using a Progressive Betting System.

Yeah, they all say that. Unfortunately they are all wrong. Read it for yourself:

http://www.blackjack-scams.com/html/prog__systems.html

-Sonny-

 

[shadroch]

Well, if you can't find a 1 dollar table, then tell me, how are you going to use 1 dollar units for your grind?!

That's a rhethorical question btw, I already know the answer. I've done all that I can here. Grind away Shadroch. End of discussion.

I've never advocated playing OG on a BJ table. If you read my posts,I talk of using it on Roulette,or Craps,where there are plenty of $1 tables. In AC,if you are betting the outside numbers,you don't even lose your whole bet when the 0 or 00 come up.