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rollem411

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Probably should have made a poll for this, but just interested in some opinions. Say you are playing a shoe game where the count stays positive towards the end of the shoe. You know the cut card is coming in the next round and you want to get as much pen. as possible.

How many hands would you spread to? Most I ever did was 3. I feel more than this would draw heat. I also don't know what would be the optimum bet for each slot if one were to spread to more. Would you overbet the optimum because it is the last round if you were to play more than 2 or 3 spots?
 

EasyRhino

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rollem411 said:
Would you overbet the optimum because it is the last round if you were to play more than 2 or 3 spots?
No, I wouldn't overbet. If the count didn't justify the bet (say, +1 or something), then I wouldn't want to overbet. However, depending table minimums and unit size, you might be able to play two one-unit hands or something.
 
Spread

generally speaking you would only spread near the end of the shoe, slipper, in a decent positive count to be sure to pull those cards. If you can go to three spots then do it. There are other times to do it but I am sure you are aware of those situations;)

What's with the heat thing :confused: If you want to be a winner play like a true "BJ Warrior". If you are too good for the casino let them decide, don't HANDCUFF yourself. :rolleyes:

Just Have At It....:grin:

CP
 

rollem411

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EasyRhino said:
No, I wouldn't overbet. If the count didn't justify the bet (say, +1 or something), then I wouldn't want to overbet. However, depending table minimums and unit size, you might be able to play two one-unit hands or something.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I did mean that the count was positive...Let's just say your mid level to max bet. I think I would overbet it if I was going to spread to more hands.


creeping panther said:
generally speaking you would only spread near the end of the shoe, slipper, in a decent positive count to be sure to pull those cards. If you can go to three spots then do it. There are other times to do it but I am sure you are aware of those situations;)

What's with the heat thing :confused: If you want to be a winner play like a true "BJ Warrior". If you are too good for the casino let them decide, don't HANDCUFF yourself. :rolleyes:

Just Have At It....:grin:

CP
After reading that, you inspired me to play multiple hands if the situation arises. I'd probably end up leaving after that shoe and head to a different joint though, but it would be worth it.
 

rollem411

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Aphy said:
http://www.gamemasteronline.com/Archive/Blackjack/PlayingMultiplehands-P1.shtml (Archive copy)

Maybe this link can help you, but if the count does not justify the size of the bet, you will be overbetting, unless you are counting aces then probably will be justify.

It would be good if you mention what system and spread are you using? what is the min bet in the table?
It's just a general question of whether YOU would overbet and spread to more hands using your own counting system and spread. Like I said, I think I would do it if the count justified near max bets.
 
rollem411 said:
Probably should have made a poll for this, but just interested in some opinions. Say you are playing a shoe game where the count stays positive towards the end of the shoe. You know the cut card is coming in the next round and you want to get as much pen. as possible.

How many hands would you spread to? Most I ever did was 3. I feel more than this would draw heat. I also don't know what would be the optimum bet for each slot if one were to spread to more. Would you overbet the optimum because it is the last round if you were to play more than 2 or 3 spots?
Getting pen in the middle of the last round doesn't buy you all that much, because you have already made your last betting decision. But it does allow you to spread your risk out across several hands with no penalty in pen. Most casinos will only allow you to spread to 3 hands.

If you are using an advanced technique where you need to get the cut card, then it's always worth it to spread to 3 hands.
 

Kasi

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rollem411 said:
You know the cut card is coming in the next round and you want to get as much pen. as possible.

How many hands would you spread to?

I don't know - if you absolutely knew that the cut card would be dealt the next round, even if you were to only play 1 hand, then I guess I'd spread to as many hands as possible to take advantage of betting more in that count.

You wouldn't be over-betting because you'd know how much to bet whether spreading 2,3 or more hands to keep the variance the same as if you had just played 1 hand with the bet that was called for at that count. But you'd have more money out so higher EV with same risk.

I guess it's alot harder to know when to spread to how many hands in + counts when the cut-card will not be coming out in the next round.
 
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