Suit-aware simulation on CVData? How?

ArcticInferno

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I have CVData 5.0.53, which allows color-aware systems (black vs red).
Is it possible to program it to account for the suit?
Not simply black vs red, but each suit, diamond, heart, clubs & spades.
 

alwayssplitaces

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Does the suit matter at all? For the Royal Match side bet, it's only slightly better than breakeven if all of one suit is depleted.
 

ArcticInferno

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alwayssplitaces said:
Does the suit matter at all? For the Royal Match side bet, it's only slightly better than breakeven if all of one suit is depleted.
It's not about the side bets.
For reasons that're too much to explain here, I need to run simulations to study systems that are suit-aware.
 

gronbog

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ArcticInferno said:
I have CVData 5.0.53, which allows color-aware systems (black vs red).
Is it possible to program it to account for the suit?
Not simply black vs red, but each suit, diamond, heart, clubs & spades.
It is easily done, either by simulating the actual manipulation of the cards (shuffling, dealing, collecting) or by generating a random suit to go along with each random card that is generated based on the frequencies of the cards & suits remaining.

My own sim does the former.
 

ArcticInferno

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gronbog said:
It is easily done, either by simulating the actual manipulation of the cards (shuffling, dealing, collecting) or by generating a random suit to go along with each random card that is generated based on the frequencies of the cards & suits remaining.

My own sim does the former.
I wasn't able to do this on CVData.
How did you do it in CVData?
 

QFIT

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ArcticInferno said:
I have CVData 5.0.53, which allows color-aware systems (black vs red).
Is it possible to program it to account for the suit?
Not simply black vs red, but each suit, diamond, heart, clubs & spades.
The main count can be differentiated by color, but not suit. The Side Bet side count can be by suit.
 

ArcticInferno

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QFIT said:
The main count can be differentiated by color, but not suit. The Side Bet side count can be by suit.
Are there any plans to update CVData to account for the suits in the count system?
 

zengrifter

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alwayssplitaces said:
Does the suit matter at all? For the Royal Match side bet, it's only slightly better than breakeven if all of one suit is depleted.
i think its better than that - at least with the 1D 3/10 pay - but I guess those are gone now. zg
 
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jack.jackson

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Heres one i like.

Primary(2-X)

11111100-1.5

(count black FC-2 and red FC -1)

Secondary(2-A)

1(1.5)(1.5)2(1.5)10(-.5)(-1.5)-2

3456V9A

(Count Black(only)346 -1 and all 5's -1 vs Black 9's(only) -1 and all aces -2.

Use primary count for insurance and stiff hands and 11, a2-a5
.664
.93

Use secondary for betting and for most other hands. (enhanced PE)

.997(RAPC)
.70
.993

Theory and entertainment only.:)
 
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zengrifter

Banned
jack said:
Heres one i like.

Primary(2-X)

11111100-1.5

(count black FC-2 and red FC -1)

Secondary(2-A)

1(1.5)(1.5)2(1.5)10(-.5)(-1.5)-2

3456V9A

(Count Black(only)346 -1 and all 5's -1 vs Black 9's(only) -1 and all aces -2.

Use primary count for insurance and stiff hands and 11, a2-a5
.664
.93

Use secondary for betting and for most other hands. (enhanced PE)

.997(RAPC)
.70
.993

Theory and entertainment only.:)
Do you juggle, too? zg
 
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