Toxinity said:
hi all !
I have the choice between two game :
first : standard european rules (ENHC, DAS, Double any card, etc...) WITHOUT early abandon, but 5€ units minimum
Second : Same rules WITH early abandon but 10€ units minimum
>twice have the same penetration (about 75%)
Hi Toxinity,
Penetration is one of the most important factors when game selecting. Since the penetration is the same for both games, we can ignore that. BTW, how many decks? S17 or H17? RSA?
Anyway, the rules for both games are the same... Except! the 10€ min game offers the player an additional option - early surrender. It should be obvious that the player's expectation (in units) at the 10€ will be the same or better than the 5€. If the option is -EV, the player will not use it and the expectation will be the same as the 5€. If the option becomes +EV, the player will use it and have better expectation.
We would require more information to evaluate your expectation and risk of ruin in both games. For example, your counting system,
betting system and bankroll.
What is your bankroll? Although the 10€ is definitely better expectation, it may be suicidal for you to play if your bankroll is not sufficient.
Toxinity said:
So, what game give me the better ror / win per hour ?

(and how/with what programm calcul it ?)
thanks you !
I believe the
CVCX programs are most popular and widely accepted. I own the Practice and Full Research suite, but there are also a lot of
Free Counting Resources On Web. Books are probably the best source of the information you seek.