The edge of the edge

Dopple

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I want to know when the pros think I just hit the edge of an advantage in a 6 deck shoe? I use UAPC and know it is old. We divide by half deck in this system and with 5 decks left a count of 21 = a tc of 2.1 so I might toss a couple extra bucks on my little bet. I have read somewhere you start to get an edge at around tc .7, others say at tc 1 you are heads up. I know tc1 @ beginning is not as powerful as tc1 near the end.

I believe play for small stakes you can optimize you small winnings by shading up bets at the slightest of advantage.

Do my UAPC true counts equate to the counts used in other more modern systems or am I living in a forgotten world?

I keep an ace side count and that influences my attack timing.
 

daniel27

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your edge depends on the rules 6d DOA etc , post that and then i can post your cvcx chart
daniel
 

Dopple

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doa(2) das split aces once, ls and w/o no ls please h17 and s17 if possible 6d 85% pen

hope I got it all , thanks so much
 

daniel27

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Dopple said:
doa(2) das split aces once, ls and w/o no ls please h17 and s17 if possible 6d 85% pen

hope I got it all , thanks so much
this is the canned one for your system with full indices, maybe there is differences with less indices , in the win/loss column you can check your advantage , your max bet should be with tc >= 6 , the great about the software is the ramp of bets , if this what you need i can post s17 w/o Sr and h17 , if you need your optimal bet ramp and you know about kelly i need you BR and your risk in kelly or ROR , you can send a private message if is right to you too. (for BR)
PS this is without a separate count for aces. and this sim suposse you use UAPC just by the book.
 

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daniel27

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Dopple said:
I know tc1 @ beginning is not as powerful as tc1 near the end.

I believe play for small stakes you can optimize you small winnings by shading up bets at the slightest of advantage.

Do my UAPC true counts equate to the counts used in other more modern systems or am I living in a forgotten world?

I keep an ace side count and that influences my attack timing.
first the floating advantages is really small, so in practice you just can forget about it.
betting small and big with the count is the idea of this

for UAPC check this http://www.qfit.com/cardcounting/Uston-APC/
i`m new here but UAPC for the PE is most for pitch games, not for shoes ( the razon is the poor BC)

Ideas: read the free book from http://www.qfit.com/book/index.htm, there is a advance system free with good support , if you need books in papers, just ask, your system is really difficult so using any system optimazed for shoes should be really easy.

about the sim : your advantage start with TC = 1, your max bet should be with tc = 6 , in modern world your bet ramp is more importat than your system.

any other question just ask
PS: a BR of 5000 is the min. an depends on your system and games rules
 
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