I was wondering if anyone could guide me on what type of play I should go to past card counting. As anytype I'm not so much worried about how easy the technique is but how often I can apply it during play. I know shuffle tracking has become inreasingly difficult to pull off in most of the places i've been too with the complicated shuffles or the ASM's. So if anyone has in info on more advanced techniques to practice please let me know. Thanks in advance.
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zengrifter
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In 2D games I recommend Ace tracking. zg
The nice thing about adding poker to your repertoire, is that poker games are typically the best during peak hours, weekends, evenings, etc. The exact times where blackjack conditions are the worst ... crowded and with higher minimums. This ensures that on a long gambling weekend, you have good opportunities 24/7. Poker can be much more fun and less monotonous than BJ, while still being profitable.
It doesn't take much to be a winning player at your typical $300 buy in 1/2 NL game on a Saturday night @ pretty much any casino. Reading Ed Miller's two NL books would do it.
It doesn't take much to be a winning player at your typical $300 buy in 1/2 NL game on a Saturday night @ pretty much any casino. Reading Ed Miller's two NL books would do it.
How would i go about learning how to ace track on the 2D? any good literature on it?
That does make sense, I'll look into it, thanks.
zengrifter
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Start with these discussions -
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moo321
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It's heat-free EV, and it doesn't require a large bankroll. I usually head to the poker room when things get sweaty counting.
In fact, if you consider how little play some people get in because they play half-hour hit and run sessions, they may be better off camping out a good poker game.
I find it quite easy to play 12 hours of poker a day, and I can often play much longer, while it's hard to count for much more than 8-10.
Poker
I was a poker player before blackjack. In fact, I started playing blackjack while waiting for a poker table. I remember walking up to the table and asking "is this the game where you count to 21?" Wow. What a road it has been.
Anyway, I am much better at blackjack but sometimes the conditions are horrid but still want some action. So poker it is. There are poker skills I have that have transferred over to blackjack. There are blackjack skills that have transferred over to poker. They are the two games where you play the game, the game doesn't play you (as in, say, let it ride.)
I also played online for a while and I have a wardrobe of clothing from gambling sites such as poker stars, party poker, etc. I wear these usually for two reasons: 1) I look like the average poker punk who also plays blackjack on the side and 2) at the poker table, i look like an average online player (tell city).
I guess I could toy around and act like I don't know how to handle chips, but I handle them to much I'm often asked if I'm a dealer.
I was a poker player before blackjack. In fact, I started playing blackjack while waiting for a poker table. I remember walking up to the table and asking "is this the game where you count to 21?" Wow. What a road it has been.
Anyway, I am much better at blackjack but sometimes the conditions are horrid but still want some action. So poker it is. There are poker skills I have that have transferred over to blackjack. There are blackjack skills that have transferred over to poker. They are the two games where you play the game, the game doesn't play you (as in, say, let it ride.)
I also played online for a while and I have a wardrobe of clothing from gambling sites such as poker stars, party poker, etc. I wear these usually for two reasons: 1) I look like the average poker punk who also plays blackjack on the side and 2) at the poker table, i look like an average online player (tell city).
I guess I could toy around and act like I don't know how to handle chips, but I handle them to much I'm often asked if I'm a dealer.
zengrifter
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Poker is much more demanding than BJ AP. zg
moo321
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Seriously? In what way? Strategically, or mentally, or what?
I think poker is way easier, because I'm not worried about heat.
I'm not going to get into poker too seriously, there are too many unknown variables in it, and i play to make money first and have fun last. Although it will give me something to do when its hard to get into good shoes at peak hours. BJ is mathematically proven while poker has math yet you can have the best hand and still be outdone by someone who can bluff better than you.
moo321
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You should learn limit.
zengrifter
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Au contrair - the best advice for a BJ AP would be to learn Snyder's (Dead link: http://www.pokertournamentformula.com/) _Poker Tournament Formula._
Automatic Monkey
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Still a problem. There are enough mathematically-competent players at limit tables (such as, BJ AP's giving poker a try) that it can be difficult to impossible to beat the rake, unless you also have good psychological skills.
moo321
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That's why I recommended limit. It's a much more straightforward mathematical game. Learn the EV's for hands, bet when you have a strong hand, call with draws, fold everything else.
No-limit is a much more strategically involved game, so it probably wouldn't appeal to you as much initially.
Limit is also a bit easier to play well. Good, straightforward poker can be learned from a book or two.