the Whole shoe?

LordDante

Active Member
#1
i have a question.

In the Casino i play the most (because there is a 4 deck game with 83% of penetration, others only have a 6Deck game with almost the same kind of penetration) usually im the only one playing at the table, i like this very much because i play more hands per hour.(the inevitable is that the pit bosses and every floorperson knows me and knows thats my game, they even call me to play, i dont want to blow my camouflage if i still have one)

The question is
Do i stay till the end of the shoe, even in negative counts or do i leave?

Here are the insights, first when i use the old cellphone call, or i go to the bathroom, the dealer waits for me. if nobody else comes or i delay to much they close the table.
I think that is no good.
I learned the Zen count with full indixes(60-80) to decrease this problem "thanks to ZENGRIFTER :whip:, i think is an awesome count"
My bet spread is 1-8 or 10 depending if a use Zengrifter betting spread.(after RC +6 i open 2 hands with 8 units)

What do you recommend? (i dont want to kill the golde goose).

ONCE AGAIN THANKS ZENGRIFTER!:)

Forsan et Haec olim meminisse iuvabit.:flame:
 
#2
Lord

If I were you I would play all and use heavy indice play, moving from 1 to 2 spots as the situations calls for. I face the same problem you do, just have at it. You can turn the table even in negative counts with strong deviations.

Sometimes you need to take the good with the bad:)

CP
 

callipygian

Well-Known Member
#3
If you're playing alone, the cell phone call and the bathroom trick are useless, because nobody's eating the negative count shoe while you're gone.

In general, the concept of table hopping is built around being able to find an equal or better game in the time it takes for the current game to get to that profitability. Let's take the extreme examples:

(a) You are playing at the only blackjack table in the casino and the only casino in the country. You would never hop.

(b) You are playing in a ballroom with 500 identically dealt games. You would hop like crazy.

Basically, Wong out when you think you could be doing better elsewhere. I don't know if there's a way to quantify that. Maybe if you had the average time it would take to examine every game in the casino and found an expected delay to profitability, then you could calculate when your current odds outweighed the delay of finding a new game?
 

blackjack avenger

Well-Known Member
#5
Move it or Lose It?

You should probably spread your play around, in the same casino and to others. If you are tossed from one you may be tossed from others.

I am sure you have to get up from the 4 deck game for some kind of break, take your breaks when it is fairly negative -5TC or so.

Probably the more often you play the more you need to move around.
 
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