Tipping the Dealer

TENNBEAR

Well-Known Member
#22
Before I go to the casino, normally for a two day stay, I will get 20 one dollar bills that I use for tips, each drink I give a Dollar, each meal at the food court the waitress gets two dollars. I try to make the 20 dollars last the full stay.
The dealer gets a 5.00 chip around the second or third shuffle, and another when I color-up only if I win.
 

Cardcounter

Well-Known Member
#23
Tips add up!!!

I work as a dealer at a place with very moderate play and I average about $90-$100 a night in tips. The tips add up to about $14 an hour for me I don't go for my own so the other dealers dramatically effect how much I make usually in negative way. But there are some places that people do go for there own tips like Boomtown and The Eldorado. Friendly dealers should make more in tips than ass holes I'm a dealer my self and I will tip friendly dealers and not tip ass holes.
 

Preston

Well-Known Member
#24
bluewhale said:
Our discussion about drinks brought up an interesting point, tipping...

1. How much do you tip.
2. How often
3. Who do you tip.
4. Other (ie. certain cercumstances do you tip more, less, etc.)
1) I usually only tip during a + count, I will get a stack of whites and throw a white on top of my bet, and a white for the dealer. I tell the dealer that we're going to keep riding the winning $1 bets. Usually this pays the dealer out pretty well.

2) Depends on my mood, if I'm making money, their attitude, but usually once every few shoes.

3) Waitresses. Dealers. Cage personnel (Note: My job requires me to cash out with about $500 in small bills (i.e. $100 in 1's, $200 in 5's..etc.) and I will tip if they don't give me trouble about this or they don't look at me like I'm some kind of freak.) VERY occasionally I will tip another player if they are giving me a lot of hand interaction and it is making me $$.

At poker I usually tip 1% or 2% of the pot. So if I take in a $300 pot, I tip $3-6

4) I tip more when I'm winning, more when the dealer is helping out (showing the burn card, for example.) Or if the dealer puts on a good show, cracks good jokes..

If the dealer is an asshole who gets a kick out of taking peoples money they aren't getting a dime from me.
 

Claza

Active Member
#25
Cardcounter said:
I work as a dealer ...
There is a question I can never seem to have the opportunity to ask when I play, because for me bringing up the subject of counting in casual conversation at the blackjack table is taboo.

What is the Casino's justification why cardcounters are labeled as "almost-cheaters"? What is the philosophy behind considering cardcounting immoral? From their prospective, how can possibly using your brain and eyes be labeled as wrong-doing? What do they teach you in training and in Orientation about counting, and how do they explain it?

I believe they secretly love it, and the only reason why not virtually all tables are CSMs by now is because they seek to attract the novice counters. It's a gimmick they use knowing that only a selected few so called counters are any good at it.

I realize that you don't likely believe counting is immoral, I'm only seeking a "devil's advocate" view on this issue.
 

blackchipjim

Well-Known Member
#26
Tipping?

Any gambler worth his chips will tell tipping is a negative expectation. I do tip the waiteresses because it's how they make a living.(I only drink ice tea). If you tip the dealer in the casinos I go to they pool the tokes and split them per shift weekly or daily. I use the tipping as a signal to a dealer if he is obnoxious he ain't gettin zilch. Most dealers are very pleasant and I enjoy poking fun at them in a good natured way. You are suppose to tip a dealer in certain play situations which I won't expound on here. I say if follow your feelings, if you are winning do it with class and if you are losing do it with class. blackchipjim:eyepatch:
 

ihate17

Well-Known Member
#27
Not a dealer

Claza said:
There is a question I can never seem to have the opportunity to ask when I play, because for me bringing up the subject of counting in casual conversation at the blackjack table is taboo.

What is the Casino's justification why cardcounters are labeled as "almost-cheaters"? What is the philosophy behind considering cardcounting immoral? From their prospective, how can possibly using your brain and eyes be labeled as wrong-doing? What do they teach you in training and in Orientation about counting, and how do they explain it?

I believe they secretly love it, and the only reason why not virtually all tables are CSMs by now is because they seek to attract the novice counters. It's a gimmick they use knowing that only a selected few so called counters are any good at it.

I realize that you don't likely believe counting is immoral, I'm only seeking a "devil's advocate" view on this issue.
Most dealers learn nothing or little about counting but some pick it up on their own from play or perhaps wanting to move up in the casino food chain.
You are correct that most novice counters will lose. I disagree about the CSM's. The money won by casinos from novice counters is insignificant and the reason that CSM's are extremely rare on $25 and higher tables is very simple, most players (non counters) will not play against these machines.

ihate17
 
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