To those not in LV

[MeWin$]

It seems, to me anyways, that there is a lot of Card Counting tolerant dealers out there besides Las Vegas.
Several dealers think(guess really) that i must count becaues I spread my bets. Theyre right, but they dont really know, just guessing. Im not saying to trust a dealer or ever admit to Ccing, but does anyone else have similar experiences as this?
Like a young dealer saying "i'ts OK its Casino money, not mine"; or one that is obviously impressed by someone apperently sticking it to the casino man?

I always deny it, even with my fairly unmodest(lol) 60 to 1 spread, but each to their own.

 

[prankster]

I've found that small tokes coupled with friendliness negates hearing CHECKS PLAY shouted out. Do you really spread 60 to 1 and get away with it? Which state do you live in?:joker:

 

[pooptarts92]

Card counting is a lot more tolerated where I live, at one casino there's at least 3 dealers who know for sure and cut deeper when I'm at the table. There's also a pit boss there who is counter friendly, he's a very nice man. The only time I've seen counters get backed off was if they spread to 3 hands often. Other than that, they don't pay much attention no matter what my spread is, since I'm mostly a red chipper.

 

[dante62]

A few shops that I have been in dealers have suggested plays to people that meant they had to have a count in their head (and most times are completely correct). I have only seen one guy get backed off at these places and it was because he was spreading huge amounts and going to two hands when the count was high. I think most dealers outside of Vegas have a live and let live mentality especially if you are nice to them and toss a few chips their way occasionally. Being friendly to a good dealer can never hurt you.

 

[MeWin$]

Yup

Very true.

 

[Jack_Black]

how long has vegas had gambling? how about the rest of the country? how many grifters, hustlers, shisters, crooks, and even tourist gamblers come to vegas to make a buck vs. the rest of the country? The dealers and the games are the toughest in vegas for a reason. They've seen it all, and only the best of the best APs make it out there.

The casinos in my state are completely clueless. And you'll find that with states that are inexperienced in gambling revenue. They don't know what to look for, or how to stop it. They really shouldn't have to until it becomes a problem though. Every CCer I've met at the table in my area was horrible. Not a threat at all. Not to say that I'm the best, but I'm a helluva lot better than anyone I've met at the tables.

 

[ihate17]

A litmited sample

You can play in Vegas or you can play in Po-dunk and the dealer's job description is pretty much the same. One thing generally not in that description is that he is a counter catcher. Of course no two dealers are the same, either in Vegas or Po-dunk. One might be a dual rate or just be looking to move up the casino food chain, and that dealer would turn you in for the brownie points. The next dealer is happy with any player who throws a few tokes his way and could not care if you are counting or not, as long as you are not taking shots at him.
Where I think the big differences are is both in the pit and the eye. Where a Vegas casino might have seen it all, including big teams, the Po-dunk joint has probably seen a lot less, have many pits and surviellence folks who are really untrained local hires.

Another factor is go for your own vs the pool. I guess that just about every Vegas casino pools their tips. So if you tip your dealer $5, he might be only getting 1/20 of that money. In other words that tip will mean less to him than in the case where dealers go for their own and he would keep the whole tip.