Total Data Integration Package

[kewljason]

There is a post on the other site which seems worthy of mention here as well. It involves a company called 21CMI, marketing a total data integration package called KAIMI. One of the component of this program is that through social networking discovery, it aids surveillance teams research who is currently in their casinos.

We have long suspected the industry of reading a site like this. This seems to take it to the next level. Just another reminder to be careful.

 

[QFIT]

Looks like much ado. By "social network," they appear to mean relationships between players and employees, not sites like this. That's certainly something to worry about when it comes to cheating as it usually involves collusion. They also refer to search engine interface. Again, that seems to suggest looking up people by their names, not looking at forums.

 

[Tarzan]

Griffin 2.0

21st Century Systems, Inc. is another casino vendor/outside contractor trying to "kick it up a notch" from what Griffin was all about. Scare tactics to casinos to make them feel that if they don't use people like them, their casino is totally vulnerable.

If you pull up "kaimi" on your search engine you can find these douchebags. They have a couple of PDF documents with statements such as "Stop loss before it happens!" and make claims that an estimated 5%-7% of a casino's gross revenue is lost to scams. They go on to explain that they are there to help prevent this theoretical loss by taking a lesser loss by hiring us on... because... uhm... we don't want you to get scammed!

They show a few examples of what their player profile system looks like, which is an individual file on all players and employees. Something like J.Edgar Hoover's FBI in which he wanted files on anybody and everybody... Something like how Saddam Hussein had a secret police to terrorize and instill fear... something like propaganga to strike fear in the hearts and minds of casino executives of a perceived threat of WMD that requires a full blown assault and a LOT of money to prevent total capitulation of the casino world as they know it... okay, you get the idea...

These are a group of dickheads and f*cktards that are out for some of that cold hard casino cash and they are willing to go to great lengths to include gestapo/secret police tactics, scare tactics, assumptions and innuendo or whatever the f*ck it takes. Stopping loss before it happens in my book would be to not have casinos execs stupid enough to be sucked into paying these people a percentage of the casino's gross to try to prevent some nebulous, iffy, theoretical potential for loss. They want to scare casinos into thinking they are lost and vulnerable without the services of their database on individuals and secret squirrelly gestapo tactics.

Little old lady wins a few times too many at the slot machines so the database says she must be cheating!?!? Can the mighty 21st Century Systems, Inc. find out exactly HOW she won that extra $14.32 at the penny slots? I bet they CAN! I bet you they are that f*cking talented! I also bet it only cost $259.18 to find out how that b*tch scored that extra $14.32...

 

[Wookets]

If you're a online social network user, the most important thing you can do to combat this kind of stuff is change your settings so your profile doesn't appear in external search results (Google). If this company is good at what they do (perhaps a stretch) I'd surmise that they may integrate a casino's facial recognition system with online image identification services. It would be best to delete your profiles all together and play unrated, but that's not always an option for some people.

 

[zengrifter]

There is a post on the other site which seems worthy of mention here as well. It involves a company called 21CMI, marketing a total data integration package called KAIMI. One of the component of this program is that through social networking discovery, it aids surveillance teams research who is currently in their casinos.

See also: Cisco Systems + Social Intel

 

[joeblackjack]

Not to scare anyone, but if I were a casino, in every promotional email or hotel confirmation email I sent, I'd send down a cookie with every image in the email from server X that is unique to the recipient. Since I know who I am sending emails to, I can associate each cookie with a specific person in my database. Then I'd come to forums like this, and make posts with some sort of graphic in them also hosted on server X...even an invisible graphic (which is possible to do in this forum - you can add any remotely hosted image you want). Even a simple "Great post!" reply with the invisible graphic in a popular thread would do the trick. The cookie is automatically sent to server X whenever any file is requested from it, along with referrer information (the URL of the page where the graphic was posted).

Then, anyone that views a thread with my graphic in it that has a cookie from a promo email would be instantly flagged in the player database. They would know your specific identity and what forum(s) and thread(s) you were viewing. Offered as a service from a third party, only 1 casino would have to participate, and others could simply buy lists of players that are in this and other AP forums once a player has been identified. Reverse analysis is also a trivial matter; the graphics in the threads can have a cookie sent with them as well. If you then at any time in the future open an email from a participating casino, the cookie you picked up from the forum is sent and they know that you have visited an AP forum in the past, even if you weren't even a member of their players club at the time you viewed the thread with the graphic in it.

Just saying its technically possible, and easy to setup...a good programmer could do it in a day. Perhaps it would be better not to allow remotely hosted graphics on a rather sensitive forum like this. Hopefully they aren't already doing this. If I were the admin I'd do an audit of all external graphics already posted...if they are already doing this, some people on here could already be facing some issues. Privacy is an illusion.

BTW, this is another good argument against playing rated...Lol.

 

[aslan]

Like Tarzan said, this service is itself a scam against the casinos.

I know if I wanted to sell the casinos a surveillance service, I would take a play from the playbook of one of the national CPA firms. When this CPA firm targets a company for their audit services, it first hacks into its computer system, so that when it makes its pitch to the company, it can show it how vulnerable it is, and how their services can protect the company's assets.

If I want to sell my surveillance system to a casino, I would send in a team of APs to legally plunder the casino for whatever amount I needed to make the sale. The team's methods and detailed documentation of each win would be laid on the table along with the cash won, a gift back to the casino, before I demonstrated to them how our system would prevent such marauding. Ka-ching!

 

[jaygruden]

I would send in a team of APs to legally plunder the casino for whatever amount I needed to make the sale.

I'll volunteer for that team when you decide to put it together.:grin:

 

[QFIT]

We're getting a bit paranoid over a ridiculous, promotional ad. Let the casinos blow their money on badly concocted software. This red herring will make them more comfortable.

 

[aslan]

We're getting a bit paranoid over a ridiculous, promotional ad. Let the casinos blow their money on badly concocted software. This red herring will make them more comfortable.

True. Like many unneeded products, fear is the motivator used for a product that is unneeded. I'll never forget the spiel on super-heated poisonous gases that the salesman told my Mother and Father about while trying to sell them a hugely expensive fire alarm system that we could in no way afford. He had me sold, but then, I was only ten years old.

But if it makes the casinos feel better... Until and only until they make blackjack unbeatable or not worth beating, it will be business as usual.