NDN21
Well-Known Member
In Oklahoma at Firelake they have craps based on cards not dice.
The house uses the Ace, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 from two sets of cards, one blue set and one green set. A player is chosen and that player tells the stickman what two spots he would like to have overturned, eg "Spot A and spot C". The stickman then turns these spots over to reveal their value which are then used as the value for the roll.
What the house does is, at the end of a "roll" after bets have been paid, the stickman washes the cards which are facedown. Then the 6 green cards are placed on a pre-set position on the table with the 6 blue cards immediately below.
Is there a way to follow a card around the table during a wash? What techniques are available? There are only 12 cards to track. I would like to keep track of two though keeping track of one might give me an advantage.
I kept track of one card for three "rolls" and won two of those bets.
The stickman was heavy-set and had to lean over the table. I am guessing he had his weight on the table, even if just a portion of his weight. That probably would keep whatever card that was on the bottom on the bottom of the wash, right? He also did not cross his hands whatsoever. The closest they came was next to each other as he shoved both piles together. Then he pulled the two piles apart.
I also looked for nicks that developed as the cards were shoved into each other. The area of the table was a little less lit than the rest which made this more difficult. I did see that two cards, the two and four, were slightly more bent than the others. This was not easy to spot since there was no glare coming off of the cards. But at times I was not the player calling out the cards to be overturned.
At these bets when someone else was calling out the cards to be overturned what can I do with my knowledge? I know I can refuse to play but I would still have to be around the table gathering information about possible tells of the cards.
Anyone else have any ideas of what else can be done?
The house uses the Ace, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 from two sets of cards, one blue set and one green set. A player is chosen and that player tells the stickman what two spots he would like to have overturned, eg "Spot A and spot C". The stickman then turns these spots over to reveal their value which are then used as the value for the roll.
What the house does is, at the end of a "roll" after bets have been paid, the stickman washes the cards which are facedown. Then the 6 green cards are placed on a pre-set position on the table with the 6 blue cards immediately below.
Is there a way to follow a card around the table during a wash? What techniques are available? There are only 12 cards to track. I would like to keep track of two though keeping track of one might give me an advantage.
I kept track of one card for three "rolls" and won two of those bets.
The stickman was heavy-set and had to lean over the table. I am guessing he had his weight on the table, even if just a portion of his weight. That probably would keep whatever card that was on the bottom on the bottom of the wash, right? He also did not cross his hands whatsoever. The closest they came was next to each other as he shoved both piles together. Then he pulled the two piles apart.
I also looked for nicks that developed as the cards were shoved into each other. The area of the table was a little less lit than the rest which made this more difficult. I did see that two cards, the two and four, were slightly more bent than the others. This was not easy to spot since there was no glare coming off of the cards. But at times I was not the player calling out the cards to be overturned.
At these bets when someone else was calling out the cards to be overturned what can I do with my knowledge? I know I can refuse to play but I would still have to be around the table gathering information about possible tells of the cards.
Anyone else have any ideas of what else can be done?
