Vegas Game Report and Question!!!!

[K Huebl]

Real fast: what is an AP???
Also, is there a listing of the variations to basic strategy (the 17 changes) for the Hi-Lo count?
Also, should you ask for comps even playing at the 5$ table?
Also, has anyone done a basic strategy matrix for Spanish 21??? (10's are missing from deck, player can surrender, player 21 is always paid 3:2 and beats house, 777 paid 3:2, 678 suited bonus, double after any splits allowed, double on any cards, can withdrawl double down bet if next card is bad [but cant get any more cards], seems very favorable to the player if they changed up regular basic strategy.)

Just went to vegas with friends, first time ever in casinos small bankroll only played $5 min. tables.

Every casino on the strip had 6 deck games and single deck games. Venetian had 8 deck games. Everywhere is hit soft 17. Couple places offer surrender. Everywhere is double after split (except on aces). Most of the big casinos were $10 min. bet tables. Frontier sucks horrible dealers and penetration was about 50%. I found a small place across the street from treasure island called Casino Royale!!! Incredible single deck, and multiple deck games. I played the 6 deck game 5$ min $500 max bet, penetration at about 80% - 85%!!!!! Hand shuffled cards too, and the dealers are f*ckin awesome!!!!! AND the cocktail waitress comes around about every 10 minutes so when I was 'done playing I settled back to min bets and played for an extra hour and got hammered for free (except tips) before hittin the town. Anyways they let me get away with a lot swinging bets from 5$ to 30$ and taking insurance bets in a really high count (but they dont care on such cheap tables).

Anyways any helpful info would be awesome!!!
Thanks,
Kyran

 

[Negative Martingale]

WooHoo!! Another virgin discovers Vegas.

Real fast: what is an AP???
AP = Advantage Player ie. one who plays with an advantage.

Also, is there a listing of the variations to basic strategy (the 17 changes) for the Hi-Lo count?

Sure, it is right here at this site. Look for the link to the left labeled System Indices. And it is 18 changes, known as the "I-18".

Also, should you ask for comps even playing at the 5$ table?

Sure, ask away. In fact, ask for comps even if you aren't playing. Why not? If you are polite and aren't causing problems, they might give you a comp to the coffee shop, and they might not. What have you got to lose, no harm in asking, just don't be obnoxious, and say "thank you" no matter what.

Also, has anyone done a basic strategy matrix for Spanish 21??? (10's are missing from deck, player can surrender, player 21 is always paid 3:2 and beats house, 777 paid 3:2, 678 suited bonus, double after any splits allowed, double on any cards, can withdrawl double down bet if next card is bad [but cant get any more cards], seems very favorable to the player if they changed up regular basic strategy.)

Sure. There are even books about the game. (Dead link: http://www.gamemaster.com) _www.gamemaster.com_ I think has a basic strategy. What you will find is that even with modified basic strategy the house edge on this game is still even higher than normal blackjack.

 

[The Mayor]

> Also, should you ask for comps even playing at the 5$ table?

Yes.

> Also, has anyone done a basic strategy matrix for Spanish 21???

http://www.wizardofodds.com/games/spanish21.html

> Every casino on the strip had 6 deck games and single deck games.

The single deck games are either "Super Fun 21" or "Single Deck 21" neither of which is actual blackjack, and neither of which can be played for a long term advantage except by a few top experts.

> I found a small place across the street from treasure island called Casino Royale!!! Incredible single deck, and multiple deck games.

Wrong -- incredibly bad 6:5 single deck. Decent double deck.

> I played the 6 deck game 5$ min $500 max bet, penetration at about 80% - 85%!!!!!

That only means you are getting 5:6 dealt out, which is average. But they don't allow LSR (late surrender) and are H17 games, which makes them very weak.

Just because you won on a game, don't think that means the game is good. You played some very poor games and got lucky.

--Mayor

 

[Al Rogers]

"Single deck blackjack" on the Strip is a ripoff *LINK*

...Casino Royale!!! Incredible single deck...

Did you miss the sign that reads "Blackjacks pay 6 to 5"?

This game is an incredible ripoff. See link below.