Was "21" sponsored by Casinos?

Discussion in 'General' started by Dyepaintball12, Jun 1, 2011.

  1. 21forme

    21forme Well-Known Member

    Someone attractive?
  2. Gamblor

    Gamblor Well-Known Member

    Kate Bosworth. I can guarantee a girl like that does not go to MIT, its a physical and logical impossibility. If this much good looks and brains was concentrated in one person, the universe would catastrophically implode upon itself into a singularity. Myself being the exception of course.

  3. 21forme

    21forme Well-Known Member

    I agree with you there.
  4. blackjack avenger

    blackjack avenger Well-Known Member

    casino marketing not bright

    Only saw last 30 min?

    The message to a whale?

    You can be pulled out of a casino, beaten, robbed and life threatened.

    If can happen to an AP, why not me?

    The more the message gets out that casino staff are dangerous, especially if one plays big. The more damage to their bottom line.
  5. David Spence

    David Spence Member

    I thought 21 was spot-on. It accurately depicts the day-to-day challenges any working AP must face. My only criticism, and this is really just a quibble, is that they didn't use rocket shoes to travel from one casino to another. All the pros I know use rocket shoes (or teleporters, if traffic is an issue) to go from casino to casino, and even from table to table at larger casinos. All in all, though, a realistic plot, an amazing script, and an impeccable presentation of the facts made for a great movie.
  6. gothic

    gothic Well-Known Member


    I actually -did- start out my counting education with the movie 21 :laugh:. I learned to go look for basic strategy charts on the internet and how to count with the Hi-Lo system (the movie calls it the "Plus One - Minus One Balanced System) from the special features. Of course I went on to read a bunch of books and purchase/download various software, but my starting inspiration was that darn movie... not that I don't own and watch the movie still. ;)
  7. Dyepaintball12

    Dyepaintball12 Well-Known Member

    Yeah man, I think a lot of people got started that way and I think the casinos were counting on most of them going about it half-assed and getting wrecked.

    I started after I read Bringing Down the House which the movie is based off, so basically the same thing :laugh:
  8. Richard Munchkin

    Richard Munchkin Well-Known Member

    We had Andy Bloch on the show this week so if you didn't listen you can get his reactions to the movie from the podcast. (He was on the MIT team.) I also put up my interview with John and Laurie C. John was one of the people the Kevin Spacey character was based on.
  9. Jack_Black

    Jack_Black Well-Known Member

    I went to a consortium semester in Italy while in college once. I met hot girls from duke, brown, and princeton.

    (Dead link: http://www.fanpop.com/spots/being-a-man/articles/67/title/beauty-brains-celebrity-babes-with-high-iqs)

    looks like your guarantee is no good. what do I get for compensation?
  10. ms069279

    ms069279 Well-Known Member

  11. tthree

    tthree Banned

    Where does Dr. Zdrok practice? I need some sex therapy and I need it bad.
  12. Freightman

    Freightman Active Member

    That was against 10's - it"s a sucker play - Sierra Summers said
  13. If it was ENHC and dealer BJ takes all bets, she might have a point.

    Or she could be talking about situations where TC is below +2. We the audience do not get to hear the beginning of the conversation.

    Didn't notice it when I was watching, but Sierra Summers does sound like a lot like a adult entertainment performer name.
  14. Dyepaintball12

    Dyepaintball12 Well-Known Member

    "In pre-production, the producers and the book's original writers predicted that the Vegas casinos would be unhelpful, as a film that told viewers the basics of card counting might hurt their bottom line. A featurette included with the DVD completely and accurately describes the "Hi-Lo" system used by the MIT Blackjack Club and by Rosa's team in the film.

    In fact, the writers were surprised when told by the producers that MGM Studios would finance the film, though all "MGM" casinos (including one used by the real MIT Blackjack Team) are owned by MGM Mirage and are no longer related to MGM Studios. In reality, as another DVD featurette reveals, the casinos (including MGM Mirage) saw the film as an attention-getter; people who saw it would be encouraged to go to Vegas and play, attempting to count cards, when in reality the film withheld critical details (such as the conversion from the "base count" to a "true count"), and in any case, although the counting system is simple, it is more difficult to successfully make money at counting cards than the film portrays."

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