Where is Card Counting illegal?
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I think you're asking the wrong question - I don't think you'll ever find anything on a statue book to say that card counting is illegal, but more likely it'll be something along the lines of cheating is illegal - and it then becomes a point of interpretation of the law as to whether card counting is cheating or not.
In the UK, the most recent revision of the Gambling Act now states that cheating is an offence under the act, but it doesn't define what constitutes cheating - just makes some woolly reference to what might reasonably be considered to be cheating. And then there's the issue of what can be proved beyond reasonable doubt and what is circumstantial? So interfering with cards in a casino (marking or warping) would be - something that can be proven using security footage, the cards etc - but counting would be much harder to prove.
All IMHO of course.
In the UK, the most recent revision of the Gambling Act now states that cheating is an offence under the act, but it doesn't define what constitutes cheating - just makes some woolly reference to what might reasonably be considered to be cheating. And then there's the issue of what can be proved beyond reasonable doubt and what is circumstantial? So interfering with cards in a casino (marking or warping) would be - something that can be proven using security footage, the cards etc - but counting would be much harder to prove.
All IMHO of course.
I doubt anywhere. At least how you present it. After all most every player, non-counters included, base their decisions on previously played cards.
Example-player is dealt two jacks for 20 total, dealer shows an eight and the other card is dealt face down. Player stands.
Even non-counters can use the ol' "there hasn't been a paint dealt in 12 cards so that means one MUST be coming out" system. Is that card-counting? Not by the definition of members of this forum. But if all a prosecutor had to prove was that a person based their playing decisions on cards that have been dealt, then maybe it could be considered card counting.
But the prosecutor most likely couldn't prove that either. It's very hard to prove that a person knows or doesn't know something. It's very hard to prove what a person is thinking in their head.
Example-player is dealt two jacks for 20 total, dealer shows an eight and the other card is dealt face down. Player stands.
Even non-counters can use the ol' "there hasn't been a paint dealt in 12 cards so that means one MUST be coming out" system. Is that card-counting? Not by the definition of members of this forum. But if all a prosecutor had to prove was that a person based their playing decisions on cards that have been dealt, then maybe it could be considered card counting.
But the prosecutor most likely couldn't prove that either. It's very hard to prove that a person knows or doesn't know something. It's very hard to prove what a person is thinking in their head.