Why cover AP play?

[Dopple]

I dont see how anyone could cover play without losing a ton of good index plays. In the course of 4 hours play DD you are going to see many time you want to hit that 13 vs. 2-6 or even 14 and you will lose ev if you dont. There will be many times the dreaded 10 split will be a very lucrative move so why not just do it. Could it be they will tolerate a certain amount of AP play but just dont shove it in their face.

I have played part time for 30 years and basked in the heat. I have been booted from three places in my life. Barring is nothing to brag about but is the question if you are counting or how well you are counting.

I suppose it would be wise to never hit them up for too much dough in one sitting.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

I dont see how anyone could cover play without losing a ton of good index plays. In the course of 4 hours play DD you are going to see many time you want to hit that 13 vs. 2-6 or even 14 and you will lose ev if you dont. There will be many times the dreaded 10 split will be a very lucrative move so why not just do it. Could it be they will tolerate a certain amount of AP play but just dont shove it in their face.

I have played part time for 30 years and basked in the heat. I have been booted from three places in my life. Barring is nothing to brag about but is the question if you are counting or how well you are counting.

I suppose it would be wise to never hit them up for too much dough in one sitting.

The nice thing about count-based strategy changes is that most casino personnel don't recognize them as such and mistake them for weak play.

The trigger is bet variation. In a DD or SD game bet variations that mimic those associated with counting will often get you backed off even when they have nothing to do with the count. And that's what we need to cover, not our play.

 

[bj bob]

The trigger is bet variation. In a DD or SD game bet variations that mimic those associated with counting will often get you backed off even when they have nothing to do with the count.

I'm confused Monk. How could bet variations that mimic counting have nothing to do with the count? Why would an AP purposely vary his bet which would not be influenced by the count? Did I miss something here?

 

[Blue Efficacy]

I'm confused Monk. How could bet variations that mimic counting have nothing to do with the count? Why would an AP purposely vary his bet which would not be influenced by the count? Did I miss something here?

He is saying that counter catchers look at betting much more than playing. And if a ploppy is betting in a way that looks like a card counter would bet, he could get tossed, too. I think that's what he is saying, anyway.

 

[psyduck]

Is it correct to say that no matter how you play, as long as they noted you are a consistent winner, they will bar you?

 

[Pro21]

Is it correct to say that no matter how you play, as long as they noted you are a consistent winner, they will bar you?

Yes, and it doesn't if the person is actually a skilled player. Many losing players have been barred for getting lucky for a while.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

I'm confused Monk. How could bet variations that mimic counting have nothing to do with the count? Why would an AP purposely vary his bet which would not be influenced by the count? Did I miss something here?

CAA discusses it in his book: just go into a tight SD or DD game playing BS and "looking like a counter," vary your bet to extremes on a few shuffles without actually counting, and watch what happens. They're more into looking for counter-like bet variations than actually counting themselves.

 

[bj bob]

CAA discusses it in his book: just go into a tight SD or DD game playing BS and "looking like a counter," vary your bet to extremes on a few shuffles without actually counting, and watch what happens. They're more into looking for counter-like bet variations than actually counting themselves.

OK, now I get it. So you still have to be playing BS and fake the bet spread. I suppose that Oriental players can still get away with murder though.

 

[psyduck]

I suppose that Oriental players can still get away with murder though.

Then why don't you make up to look like an oriental?

 

[moo321]

I dont see how anyone could cover play without losing a ton of good index plays. In the course of 4 hours play DD you are going to see many time you want to hit that 13 vs. 2-6 or even 14 and you will lose ev if you dont. There will be many times the dreaded 10 split will be a very lucrative move so why not just do it. Could it be they will tolerate a certain amount of AP play but just dont shove it in their face.

I have played part time for 30 years and basked in the heat. I have been booted from three places in my life. Barring is nothing to brag about but is the question if you are counting or how well you are counting.

I suppose it would be wise to never hit them up for too much dough in one sitting.

Just do it. People are too paranoid about heat. I'm more worried about losing my bankroll playing a lousy game than getting caught. Lots of casinos in the world, only one bankroll.

 

[daddybo]

just do it. People are too paranoid about heat. I'm more worried about losing my bankroll playing a lousy game than getting caught. Lots of casinos in the world, only one bankroll.

amen!