Wierd Blackjack Rules-!!

[quicklearner]

I have been counting for 5 months now daily.At home, six decks, Hi-Low standard Vegas strip rules.And I am feeing good.

I was looking up BJ rules in my home country where I am planning my big attack...AND I FOUND THAT ALMOST ALL THE CASINOS DEAL ONLY ONE CARD TO THE DEALER UNTIL ALL PLAYERS HAVE PLAYED THEIR HAND!....Only once theyve played their hands does the dealer deal himself a second.The rule ar as follows:6 decks, S17, No DAS, Early Surrender, No Peek

WHAT DOES THIS RULE DO TO ME AS I AM COUNTING ie: Is it good or bad for me as I am counting and betting with the count and WHY?

Much Appreciation to the BIG HEADS on this forum for their mathematical and experienced inputs to help guys like me make it happen!

Peace
m

 

[kewljason]

the rule is very disadvantagous because if the player doubles down or splits, he can lose twice as much against a dealer blackjack, instead of only the original wager.

 

[hawkeye]

The expected ratio of cards you want to cards left in the deck, the count, should still be the same when you get your card no matter when the dealer gets his card.

 

[shadroch]

If the player is allowed to double down or split against a dealers ten card, and loses both bets in the event of a dealer BJ, its bad for the player and you need to adjust your BS.Same obviously goes for a dealers Ace.If you only lose the original bet, then it makes no difference to speak of.

 

[Harman]

the rule is very disadvantagous because if the player doubles down or splits, he can lose twice as much against a dealer blackjack, instead of only the original wager.

its not very disadvantagous

 

[Brock Windsor]

I think European No Hole Card adds 0.11% to the house edge so it's not that bad. Check if your early surrender rule is vs 10 only or vs an Ace as well. I suspect it will be the former.
BW

 

[SystemsTrader]

Like Brock Windsor said this game is probably not early surrender. If it is, that would make it an excellent game with only a -.02% house edge so run to the casino to play this game. Can you double check these rules Quicklearner?

 

[EyeHeartHalves]

Hey Quicklearner,

Also, make sure if it's "DA2"? I played a lot in Europe on my Honeymoon. I took'em for about $7,000 USD. I used Professional Blackjack by Stanford Wong to read up on "noPK" strategy changes. However, as the others are saying, I don't think it's "ES". Also, I agree with the other guys--noPK is disadventageous but it's not "VERY". They did this to cut back the possibilities of "holecarding". Incidently, through an advanced technique known as "steering", holecarding a noPK dealer is still possible.

In conclusion: Is it really "ES"? Is it really 6d and not CSM or 6d w./ only 17% penetration? Is it DA2 or D10? Is it RS3 or noRS? Then, get some expensive blackjack software in order to better plan your "Attack."

 

[kewljason]

its not very disadvantagous

you are correct. I should not have used the adverb very. However, the .11 penalty suggusted is for the basic strategy player. A counter who doubles 11 vs A, 10 vs 10, 10 vs ace, with larger bets out, which are all three illustrious 18 plays will encounters a larger disadvantage than .11% from this rule. An additional disadvantage to this rule would be the time lost actually playing out the hands when the dealer has blackjack. Less hands per hour equals less money won!

Plus I just cant imagine a more depressing senario than doubling your 10 vs dealer 10 with a super high count, with your max bet of 12 or 15 units out, drawing a 10 or even better an ace and still losing 2 max bets!! More than likely your fate for that night has just been determined.

 

[quicklearner]

What if the casino claims to Have the dealer shuffle and afterwards they put it in a CSM...Does that shuffle continuously...after each round?Thats terrible.Honestly they are just luring in the suckers.

I appologise for the waste of your time,but,I like hearing what all have to say.

I dont know why but I prefer to play against when the dealer has a hole card.! you?

Damn...what am I going to play in South Africa..?

i will however continue the analysis of the various casinos I have.

The thing is they dont display all there rules on their site.


Can anyone recommend any good DVD's for training purposes? I have SEMYON;s Basic and advanced discs which I enjoy watching thoroughly.And a BS engine which accepts these"Wierd rules"

Thanks

M

 

[EyeHeartHalves]

Wow, you are a quick learner.

What if the casino claims to Have the dealer shuffle and afterwards they put it in a CSM...Does that shuffle continuously...after each round?Thats terrible.Honestly they are just luring in the suckers.

I appologise for the waste of your time,but,I like hearing what all have to say.

I dont know why but I prefer to play against when the dealer has a hole card.! you?

Damn...what am I going to play in South Africa..?

i will however continue the analysis of the various casinos I have.

The thing is they dont display all there rules on their site.


Can anyone recommend any good DVD's for training purposes? I have SEMYON;s Basic and advanced discs which I enjoy watching thoroughly.And a BS engine which accepts these"Wierd rules"

Thanks

M

I think you just described a noPK, CSM game with a hand shuffle before insertion. This was common when I was in Europe. By hand shuffling, they combat those 10 or so guys on the planet Earth who can sequence/track a CSM.

As for your other question: No! I can't think of a better DVD than Advanced Techniques by Semyon Dukach. I hope you didn't pay $275 for it? That is a friggin awesome DVD, isn't it? That DVD turned my tides toward tracking. ONCE YOU TRACK, YOU NEVER GO BACK. Oh, and BTW, if you gamble in AC sometimes, hit me up with a PM. Maybe we can give one of those AT's a shot or just share some valuable information if you have that much free time.

--Halves