I have debated for about a day whether to post this or not. It may be deleted but I am going to say my piece. In the last day or two a thread here about casinos conditions at re-opening of Las Vegas was linked to at BJTF, to with Zee made the following reply that had nothing to do with the actual topic.
"That site (meaning bjinfo) banned me permanently for the slight. Thanks to Norm for letting me here. I contacted KJ to see if he could get me back on that forum but he is still angry with me for what he sees as insufficient or lack of support in his war with Norm."
This burns me a bit because it simply is not true and I don't need anyone fanning the flames of that particular situation. Zeebabar did contact me about 6 months ago asking that I help him get re-instated here. That is where the truth ends. I wasn't even aware that he was banned here, nor knew of the circumstances, so I inquired with Al Rogers. Al's first response was that he didn't remember the circumstances and asked my opinion as to whether Zeebabar should be allowed to post here. My initial response was yes, that I always sort of liked Zeebabar's posts. Even when he plays dumb and asks dumb questions it is a chance for knowledgeable people to respond, which may benefit other members. I also enjoy his trip reports from Vegas, as I am very familiar with most places. Although I am usually left shaking my head, as to the things he does that draw attention.
But I sort of wanted to know the circumstances of his banning before I really went to bat asking that he be re-instated, so I asked around via private message. What I received back was that Zeebabar had publicly mentioned buying a gun, and that he would find and shoot a member that he was having issues with, a well known AP. WoW!
This certainly was not ok with me. I contacted Al Rogers a second time, now a day later and withdrew my recommendation. By now, Al had remembered the circumstances and said that Zeebabar would remain banned.
It is never acceptable to threaten to find and someone on these forums and shoot them. That actually rises to a police matter. I have had that happen and the person actually showed up at my home. And even the shooting threat aside, it is not even ok to threaten to find a fellow AP. The nature of advantage player and the casino relationship is such that serious AP's value their privacy. Just talk of one AP finding and tracking down another should be grounds for banning in my opinion.
So Zee, I did attempt to help you as requested. But the circumstances of your banning were such that I could not recommend your re-instation and It wouldn't have mattered if I had. Al was pretty adamant about that.
Perhaps the thing to do is to think about the circumstances of your banning, and hopefully realize some regret, make a public apology to the person you threatened and try to move forward that way. But it had nothing to do with Norm or my situation. That is over for me and I don't appreciate you injecting that into it publicly.
"That site (meaning bjinfo) banned me permanently for the slight. Thanks to Norm for letting me here. I contacted KJ to see if he could get me back on that forum but he is still angry with me for what he sees as insufficient or lack of support in his war with Norm."
This burns me a bit because it simply is not true and I don't need anyone fanning the flames of that particular situation. Zeebabar did contact me about 6 months ago asking that I help him get re-instated here. That is where the truth ends. I wasn't even aware that he was banned here, nor knew of the circumstances, so I inquired with Al Rogers. Al's first response was that he didn't remember the circumstances and asked my opinion as to whether Zeebabar should be allowed to post here. My initial response was yes, that I always sort of liked Zeebabar's posts. Even when he plays dumb and asks dumb questions it is a chance for knowledgeable people to respond, which may benefit other members. I also enjoy his trip reports from Vegas, as I am very familiar with most places. Although I am usually left shaking my head, as to the things he does that draw attention.
But I sort of wanted to know the circumstances of his banning before I really went to bat asking that he be re-instated, so I asked around via private message. What I received back was that Zeebabar had publicly mentioned buying a gun, and that he would find and shoot a member that he was having issues with, a well known AP. WoW!
This certainly was not ok with me. I contacted Al Rogers a second time, now a day later and withdrew my recommendation. By now, Al had remembered the circumstances and said that Zeebabar would remain banned.It is never acceptable to threaten to find and someone on these forums and shoot them. That actually rises to a police matter. I have had that happen and the person actually showed up at my home. And even the shooting threat aside, it is not even ok to threaten to find a fellow AP. The nature of advantage player and the casino relationship is such that serious AP's value their privacy. Just talk of one AP finding and tracking down another should be grounds for banning in my opinion.
So Zee, I did attempt to help you as requested. But the circumstances of your banning were such that I could not recommend your re-instation and It wouldn't have mattered if I had. Al was pretty adamant about that.
Perhaps the thing to do is to think about the circumstances of your banning, and hopefully realize some regret, make a public apology to the person you threatened and try to move forward that way. But it had nothing to do with Norm or my situation. That is over for me and I don't appreciate you injecting that into it publicly.
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