Zen vs Hi-Opt II

#1
Sup guys, i'm still considered amateur since i still don't have that much blackjack casino experience. But i want the opinions of others on this topic.

I've been reading Posts on counting systems and almost every one considers Zen as the optimal counting system. I've been sticking with Hi-Opt II w/ A side count, and had fairly fluent sessions at the casino, due to major major practice,

My question is, in your opinion, should i keep to Hi Opt II because im already accustomed to it, and work on more fluent and camouflage ,,, or convert to Zen because they say its less chance for "human error", easier count for camouflage, and faster

Thanks in advance
 
#2
Depends

Are you using the A side count? If you are comfortable with the count, with or without the A side count, then why change?

If you are not using the A side count, then probably best not to start. It's extra work for not a lot of return.

Don't change! what you are doing

Oh, halves is the best count, but I am not biased
Not at all!
 

BrianCP

Well-Known Member
#3
blackjack avenger said:
Are you using the A side count? If you are comfortable with the count, with or without the A side count, then why change?

If you are not using the A side count, then probably best not to start. It's extra work for not a lot of return.

Don't change! what you are doing

Oh, halves is the best count, but I am not biased
Not at all!
Hi-Opt II with the ace side count does tend to outperform Halves actually, but of all of the single parameter systems Halves is certainly the best. If you already have the ace side count down and are comfy with Hi-Opt II, then stick with it. It is really powerful with the ace side count.

Zen is the strongest level 2 system, but this has more to do with its high PE rather than its BC (which is generally far more important in shoe games).
 
#5
Total Destruction

BrianCP said:
Hi-Opt II with the ace side count does tend to outperform Halves actually, but of all of the single parameter systems Halves is certainly the best.
You said it:
I said halves was the best count SINGULAR
hi opt II with A side count is 2 counts.

One could apply extra effort to halves and CRUSH:eek: the SCORE of Hi opt 2
I am not biased, not at all:whip:
 

jack.jackson

Well-Known Member
#6
blackjack avenger said:
You said it:
I said halves was the best count SINGULAR
hi opt II with A side count is 2 counts.

One could apply extra effort to halves and CRUSH:eek: the SCORE of Hi opt 2
I am not biased, not at all:whip:
I like to SC Aces in Pitch games w/ao2. But for MD i add 3/5 +1 Vs A -2 to convert into Halves for betting. 1122210-1-2=1223210-1-2-2
 
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