I am a casino dealer
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1) Wish all players Good Luck when you start dealing.
2) Wish any player who joins the table Good Luck.
Those are simple. Doesn't change the cards, but makes ya feel someone's pullin' for ya.
Also....(for games dealt face up)
3) I like it when the dealer adds your total out loud as they deal.
I'm adding too, but it's nice to hear my total in case I mis-added.
Do Vegas dealers do this?
I've only played on gambling boats and cruise ship casinos.
First Vegas trip is next week.
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4) Don't pass over me until I've given my signal for hit or stand.
On some hands, like A6 or A7 especially, the dealer wanted to (wrongly)assume I was always going to stand. You had to catch them quick before they gave your card to the next player.
Finally,
5) Just be pleasant. Win or lose, I don't blame the dealer.
Unfortunately, some players do.
But, then, some players are just rude and obnoxious.
2) Wish any player who joins the table Good Luck.
Those are simple. Doesn't change the cards, but makes ya feel someone's pullin' for ya.
Also....(for games dealt face up)
3) I like it when the dealer adds your total out loud as they deal.
I'm adding too, but it's nice to hear my total in case I mis-added.
Do Vegas dealers do this?
I've only played on gambling boats and cruise ship casinos.
First Vegas trip is next week.
and
4) Don't pass over me until I've given my signal for hit or stand.
On some hands, like A6 or A7 especially, the dealer wanted to (wrongly)assume I was always going to stand. You had to catch them quick before they gave your card to the next player.
Finally,
5) Just be pleasant. Win or lose, I don't blame the dealer.
Unfortunately, some players do.
But, then, some players are just rude and obnoxious.
Best Dealers
My favorite dealers are those that matter of factly call out my hand total, since I may not instantly grasp that 2-3-6-A-5 is not plus three and is really 17. They play at a steady pace, but, not too fast, and especially do not scoop up discards on the other side of the table quickly and blocking the view at any time. While it may be nice to give me advice on Basic Strategy at times it is often unwelcomed, such a long dissertation by the dealer and a pit boss on how I should insure a 21. You mentioned 14 versus 4, well, what if the count is negative eighteen, maybe I'd hit it for the heck of it? And the number one help to me is a dealer who doesn't get nervous if I push a bet in for them when the count is high so we can both make money from the casino. It's kind of an oxymoron since I want a dealer to lose to me and a Casino wants one to win my money and they may even fire losing dealers.
My favorite dealers are those that matter of factly call out my hand total, since I may not instantly grasp that 2-3-6-A-5 is not plus three and is really 17. They play at a steady pace, but, not too fast, and especially do not scoop up discards on the other side of the table quickly and blocking the view at any time. While it may be nice to give me advice on Basic Strategy at times it is often unwelcomed, such a long dissertation by the dealer and a pit boss on how I should insure a 21. You mentioned 14 versus 4, well, what if the count is negative eighteen, maybe I'd hit it for the heck of it? And the number one help to me is a dealer who doesn't get nervous if I push a bet in for them when the count is high so we can both make money from the casino. It's kind of an oxymoron since I want a dealer to lose to me and a Casino wants one to win my money and they may even fire losing dealers.
superticions rule sometimes
There have been dealers fired in Vegas because some superior thought they lost too often, but that makes no sense since all a dealer does is pull the next card out of the deck.
Records though are kept approximating dealer win/loss for the casino. The real reason for doing this is if a certain dealer is always well behind the casino average take, it raises a red flag for further investigation. Since over a period of time, all the dealers should be very close, a dealer way behind might mean a dealer who is stealing or playing with a partner.
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There have been dealers fired in Vegas because some superior thought they lost too often, but that makes no sense since all a dealer does is pull the next card out of the deck.
Records though are kept approximating dealer win/loss for the casino. The real reason for doing this is if a certain dealer is always well behind the casino average take, it raises a red flag for further investigation. Since over a period of time, all the dealers should be very close, a dealer way behind might mean a dealer who is stealing or playing with a partner.
ihate17
If the table is full and the count is high I love to double for less ($1.00) with a green chip on the table. In addition, I enjoy doubling a 12 against a 2 for a dollar. Many times people get pissed off and leave table and I have additional cards in a rich deck coming my way.
"Playing of cruise ship"...I don't trust them. Many our bust out dealers since not regulated.
"The dealer dosen't have anything to do with winning or losing." Bull. A good machanic at the right time can erase your marker in one shoe if he's a good mechanic. I've seen it done as recently as two weeks ago in a high roller room in Las Vegas.
Dealers at Wynn's make $100,000 annually and now they are really upset about Steve sharing their totes with floor people. O'Well...
"Playing of cruise ship"...I don't trust them. Many our bust out dealers since not regulated.
"The dealer dosen't have anything to do with winning or losing." Bull. A good machanic at the right time can erase your marker in one shoe if he's a good mechanic. I've seen it done as recently as two weeks ago in a high roller room in Las Vegas.
Dealers at Wynn's make $100,000 annually and now they are really upset about Steve sharing their totes with floor people. O'Well...
Stratagize
Ok, you got me, I never had a dealer fired while I was playing against them, I'm not that good anyway, so who knows. Actually I think I read about it in a book, something like the dealers are scrutinized for their win/loss rates, or win/smaller win rates. I don't wanna go through all my books and find it assuming it is in there somewhere, I'll guess it was in an old Uston book. Think about, if penetration is left up to some casinos dealers then their win rates would vary, no? And then there's warping and even a dealers personality can effect a game, speed, flashing a hole card and even giving a tell when lookng at a hole card. Anyway, since I was originally responding to a dealer, I'm sure he could tell us how it works at his location at least.
I also wanted to clarify one of my main hopes for dealers is one that doesn't give me any strategy advice. And that goes for players too. I mean why go to the trouble to learn index numbers if we're never going to deviate from basic strategy.
So, this dealer works at Conrad Hilton on the Gold Coast. I may want to go there someday, probably will be a year or two, but, is this the casino that even publishes a counting method on their web site?
Ok, you got me, I never had a dealer fired while I was playing against them, I'm not that good anyway, so who knows. Actually I think I read about it in a book, something like the dealers are scrutinized for their win/loss rates, or win/smaller win rates. I don't wanna go through all my books and find it assuming it is in there somewhere, I'll guess it was in an old Uston book. Think about, if penetration is left up to some casinos dealers then their win rates would vary, no? And then there's warping and even a dealers personality can effect a game, speed, flashing a hole card and even giving a tell when lookng at a hole card. Anyway, since I was originally responding to a dealer, I'm sure he could tell us how it works at his location at least.
I also wanted to clarify one of my main hopes for dealers is one that doesn't give me any strategy advice. And that goes for players too. I mean why go to the trouble to learn index numbers if we're never going to deviate from basic strategy.
So, this dealer works at Conrad Hilton on the Gold Coast. I may want to go there someday, probably will be a year or two, but, is this the casino that even publishes a counting method on their web site?
sagefr0g said:
yes there is something i would like to know. this may sound like nonsense and it probably is. i percieve the attitudes of various dealers as individual persons. most seem as if they are hoping for the players that things will turn out well for them. i know that a dealer has no way of consciously knowing whether the particular action a player is going to take is going to result in the hand being winner or loser for the player. also i know that a veteran dealer has seen thousands and thousands of hands played out and the results there of. i realize that some dealers are proficient blackjack players and others never play the game. so here is the point and question. i often wonder two things about the dealer. i wonder if subconsciously they may have a sense as to how a hand is going to turn out winner or loser for the player. i sometimes catch myself watching the dealer's mannerisms to see if i can catch a tell from their body language to see if they subconsciously perceive me comming out winner or loser. i've also noticed that often a dealer will be reaching for my chips even before she has seen my final card drawn or seen her final card. do dealers have a conscious sense of how the hand is going to go? what say ye Mr. or Ms. Walrus?
best regards,
mr fr0g
best regards,
mr fr0g
i dont believe that. from what you have said, EVERY SINGLE PAIR pays out 5:1 or better. also, there is no difference between same suit/rank and same exact card, so that makes no sense. theres no way the casino offers that. can you be more specific? and give me an example of a pair that doesnt pay out anything