Advantage vs the house when using Ill. 18 and Fab. 4

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Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what % advantage a CC gets just from using the Ill. 18 and Fab. 4 assuming a 6 deck, S17, DOA, no LS game with 75% penetration. I'm guessing it's about .4%
 
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what % advantage a CC gets just from using the Ill. 18 and Fab. 4 assuming a 6 deck, S17, DOA, no LS game with 75% penetration. I'm guessing it's about .4%

Depends on how much you spread and whether you play all or wong in/out.
 
Duh, sorry it was pretty late last night or umm early morning when I wrote that. Assume ill. 18 only lol
 

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Yeah the house edge does seem quite high. It should be around -.43% for BS. But I'll just take the difference between the two numbers. Thanks.
 
Assume you play all and assume flat betting.

You will never have an advantage, although you might shave a few hundredths off of the base EV.

The problem is that the I18 isn't very valuable if you don't ramp your bets - as a matter of fact, if you don't scale your bets and play all, the I18 changes dramatically - hard 12 vs. dealer 6 is now worth more than doubling hard 9 vs. 2, for instance.

The Illustrious 18 adds a significant win rate to card counting, but it doesn't work as a standalone strategy.
 
There is no playing strategy that will give you an edge over the house (for shoe games) when using a flat bet strategy. For Hi-Lo full indexes the EV gain is about 0.12% increase from BS.
Your advantage comes from spreading out your bets according to the true count.
 
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