the thing is you need a structured betting pattern to get the optimal advantage. with fluctuation largely like that you could actually be loosing all your advantage and possibly giving the house a larger advantage!
btw ive never seen a thread on this site progress so quickly
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well as long as you know and know how to fix it
yeah some streaks are insane but its all part of the ride
btw ive never seen a thread on this site progress so quickly
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NOPE!!!! THEY LOOKED AT ME LIKE A MORON WHEN I ASKED FOR PEN
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thanks for making my day.
so what have we learned:
1) there is more to counting than flipping cards in 20 seconds and watching the movie 21
2) a complete set of rules are not printed on the table at casinos
3) you always win or lose the biggest amount of money in high counts
4) "gambling" and advantage play do not mix
5) when people talk about "flucuation" in blackjack... you have not really seen it yet.
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I am not hurting nor am I holding any grudges, I just want to know if there is a way I can see if they truly are CHEATS???
I would also like to mention that I have 7,665 points on my total rewards card and have a tier of 2,300 -- lol If I go there again I should be able to comp up to platinum level!!! So I guess that is a +? :grin:
I am not hurting for the 4k or w/e I lost I just would like to find out how someone would legitly be able to find out if a certain Casino is cheating. Any information would be greatly appreciated
Thanks,
Pwn
same. dont claim ANY advanced knowledge about the game. thats just more reason to believe you are counting. some people even think just using surrender is considered advanced, let alone pen (purely made to weaken counters).
NOPE!!!! THEY LOOKED AT ME LIKE A MORON WHEN I ASKED FOR PEN.... The dealer was like " that sounds kinky "---- Lucky there was this guy in his 30's who told me about 70-75%, with a smile
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Okay, on a positive note--I think it was a really good idea to give Canada a try before turning 21. You definitely need to get some real-life experience in.
Now, "the bad"--YOU SHOULD BE SEEING A TC OF +6 ABOUT ONCE PER HOUR! Also, you know you were over-betting your trip's bankroll, right??
So, how do you detect a cheating casino? (I DON'T THINK YOU WERE CHEATED BUT LET'S ENTERTAIN THE IDEA.) You would have had to note the exact RC when the shuffle card was thrown onto the felt. (I'm assuming the RC was very positive. If it was neutral or negative when you stopped playing, then I REALLY, REALLY DON'T THINK YOU WERE CHEATED.) Now, if you were a shuffle tracker and they weren't ASM (which they probably were), you could conceivably track the cut-offs and compare it to your shuffle point notation. Without ST'g, you'd have to count the next shoe and the next and the next...
Noting the RC at the shuffle point every time. I don't what type of sample size you'd need but I'm guessing around 10 which might take about three hours. Then, if you told me the RC was over, say "+6", at least 80% of the time, "I'd say there was a good chance that you were cheated."
LOL--but that's just stupid little me--that won't help you with the Ontario officials--they probably wouldn't even listen to you, more less believe you.
Next time you go into a casino go straight to the Pit boss and ask him that question, he can probably give you a more accurate answer.
You might have well asked them what the score of that particular game was. Oh and youshould have just asked what the house advantage of th at particular game was while you were at it because you aren't going to last long at the casinos. Making ridiculously dumb comments like that is going to get kicked out of a casino faster than the counter beside you can say 70%
That is weird... Why do you think they did not kick me out right then and there? I mean I asked in a very serious tone
A 20 something walking into a casino, asking what the penetration of the shoe is and betting 500 a year or so after the movie 21 came out. Now if that doesn't scream card counter I don't know what does. Anyone can count cards, only the pros can go about it undetected.
Oh and next time I go to that Casino will be never. Hey since Casinos are Private etc etc, do they have the same rules as the normal world? They should be able to drop charges at will, no?
Pwn
beause you didnt really have a fuly structured game going on? They dont have any records? a comment like that is not gorunds for barring you right there you need to show them skill, although they most likely were watching you closely. A card counter can estimate pen by just looking at it? He didnt give a ****?