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ihate17
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Mistakes happen
Even the nicest dealer in the world will make mistakes. Of course, we are most interested in pointing out the mistakes that are made in the favor of the house.
You should definately say something but you can say it nicely. Recently there was a nice lady sitting next to me who pulled a 6 or 7 card 21 and when the dealer pulled 21, the dealer took her money and put her cards into the discard pile. I quietly asked the dealer to re-create the woman's hand because I was sure she had 21. The dealer called the pit, verified that in fact the player had 21 and returned her bet. A sincere sounding apology came from the dealer and I do not think he was upset at all at having to call the pit. The only one upset was me, as the woman I helped never said a word to me. (Your on your own for now on lady!)
ihate17
Even the nicest dealer in the world will make mistakes. Of course, we are most interested in pointing out the mistakes that are made in the favor of the house.
You should definately say something but you can say it nicely. Recently there was a nice lady sitting next to me who pulled a 6 or 7 card 21 and when the dealer pulled 21, the dealer took her money and put her cards into the discard pile. I quietly asked the dealer to re-create the woman's hand because I was sure she had 21. The dealer called the pit, verified that in fact the player had 21 and returned her bet. A sincere sounding apology came from the dealer and I do not think he was upset at all at having to call the pit. The only one upset was me, as the woman I helped never said a word to me. (Your on your own for now on lady!)
ihate17
callipygian
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This.
And this.
ihate17 said:
And especially this. Not that I point out mistakes hoping for money, but when I'm playing nickels and I catch a mistake made to a $100 bettor, and the bettor makes a $20 "no hard feelings" tip to the dealer, I think at least a verbal "thank you" would have been in order, if not throwing some of that tip my way.
I think I'm 0-for-3 in that regard. I got 1.5 thank yous and 1 ignore.
The 0.5 thank you came from a girl whose a-hole boyfriend had this thing about her talking to people at the table, as if anyone she said hi to might suddenly rip her clothes off and do her on the casino floor. She winked and gave a quick smirk, which I assume was either "thank you" or "rip off my clothes and do me on the casino floor now".
mathman
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Most definitely point it out! Fair is fair and the casino's make enough money and ploppies don't. It works both ways, I was playing at a big house in LV and did extremely well for a short session. When I asked to be colored out a suit came over and stopped the dealer from doing so. I thought here it comes...He then informed me I was paid $200 for a hand I pushed on and they wanted the $200 before I would be colored out. I knew he was correct so I slid two blacks his direction and he instructed the dealer to color me up.
creeping panther
Banned
Take Note
Never trust the dealer or cage when counting your chips!
Know the amount yourself before coloring up or cashing in. I have caught delaers and cage making mistakes both ways on several occasions.
And Yes, point out mistakes in a players favor.
CP
Never trust the dealer or cage when counting your chips!
Know the amount yourself before coloring up or cashing in. I have caught delaers and cage making mistakes both ways on several occasions.
And Yes, point out mistakes in a players favor.
CP
EasyRhino
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Definitely a good idea. Although I've personally only had one error, in my favor, extremely early in my career (the $100 was a great boost!).
moo321
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Oh man, I've had tons of them. In fact, I can't remember a trip where I haven't had one. Last trip I had a dealer push my 18 when he pulled a twenty.
I also had a carnie-game dealer attempt about 8 errors against me over the course of a long session. Only one error in my favor.
Mimosine
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Never trust the dealer or cage when counting your chips!
Know the amount yourself before coloring up or cashing in. I have caught delaers and cage making mistakes both ways on several occasions.
And Yes, point out mistakes in a players favor.
here is a piece of advice particularly that I try to emply, bet in even amounts.
i've had several BJs with weird chip stacks out, two greens some red, etc. and have almost fell victim to 3:2 payout errors. I myself don't know all the payouts that well above the $30 mark. (e.g. what is a 3:2 payout on a 45 wager). after having brain farts while trying to keep the count and make betting decisions, a complicated payout has proven problematic for me on occasion, now i just bet in increments of $10. it is really just a heat of the moment problem, not that i am thoroughly ignorant at maths.
i have stopped egregious color up and a few small cage errors that favored the house.
Before coloring up i make an exact color up amount where all my low denom chips will be converted to high demons, leaving me with a few straglers (a few green (less than 4) and a few red (less than 5); so that my color up amount is always a multiple of $100. one time i passed a dealer 800 in chips and she colored me up for 100 less than what i gave her. this was easily corrected because I KNEW what i passed her.
i've had a few small cage errors before, but after they count, and then count out the money I confirm that they have the right amount and then I count my money before i leave the window, even if the purple hairs are giving me the stink eye to cash in their slot tickets!
callipygian
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Ever use the 3:2 trick? Basically group your chips into sets of 2 and imagine a payout of 3 chips per group of 2. So a green and 4 reds ($45) would be the traditional green payout (1 green, 2 red, +$2.50) plus 6 reds (3 reds for 2 reds + 3 reds for 2 reds). You don't need to be able to add up the value quickly, so long as you make sure all the chips are there. There are some amounts, like $75, where I actually can't name the numerical value of the payout very quickly, but I can immediately spot a payout error (3:2 on 3 greens = 3 greens + 1 green + 2 red + $2.50).
What you really need to watch out for are the dealers who color up while they're doing the odd payouts.
bj bob
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My SOP at the cage is to call out the $count as soon as you arrive at the cashier's window, so if I'm coloring up 4 blacks, 3 green's and 2 reds I'll say "That looks like $485 to me, its that about right?" The cashier will be forced to agree or, if not, will have to take the time to point out your mistake. Either way, I've never had a problem. Another method with the same amount in hand is to add the $15 cash to the stacks and ask for 5 bills. The idea of keeping the cash out as clean as possible is the way to go.Never trust the dealer or cage when counting your chips!
Know the amount yourself before coloring up or cashing in. I have caught dealers and cage making mistakes both ways on several occasions.
CP
The only problem with doing this is you reduce the opportunity of a mistake in your favor. I've cashed out before and received more $$ than I had in chips. Of course I didn't mention that mistake!
moo321
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Just look for even money on each chip, and then half. Pink for any reds, two reds and a pink for a green, two greens for a black, two blacks and two greens for a purple, etc.
Blue Efficacy
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I once corrected a dealer who made a buy in error, it was at a party pit.
Drunk ploppy bought in for $45, she gave $35 in chips.
I pointed it out after she dropped the money.
It might have been a mistake on my part, as the dealer was watched more closely by the PC thereafter.
The drunk ploppy sure was grateful though.
I think I did the right thing. Although all of that money was likely bound to end up with the casino anyway...
Drunk ploppy bought in for $45, she gave $35 in chips.
I pointed it out after she dropped the money.
It might have been a mistake on my part, as the dealer was watched more closely by the PC thereafter.
The drunk ploppy sure was grateful though.
I think I did the right thing. Although all of that money was likely bound to end up with the casino anyway...