wonging out with a running count

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Chander

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I am practicing with a red seven count, Th casino I will have access to plays a 6 deck game. So My IRC is -12. Can I use an Running count to determine when to leave the table, or do I need to keep a true count as well?
 
Chander said:
I am practicing with a red seven count, Th casino I will have access to plays a 6 deck game. So My IRC is -12. Can I use an Running count to determine when to leave the table, or do I need to keep a true count as well?
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You have to do something sort of in-between. A system like: leave at -20 in the 1st third shoe, at -15 in the 2nd third, and at -10 after that. (Just an example, I didn't do any math to support those numbers.)
 
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Hi , I try to wong in only if TC plus 3 or more. There are several tables in a casinos I am playing, so I can follow running count for a while, and, if not good enough, move to anotgher table My question is:

what sort of negative running count should be to indicate that TC will NOT be plus 3?

Thanks in advance for reply.
 
caramel6 said:
Hi , I try to wong in only if TC plus 3 or more. There are several tables in a casinos I am playing, so I can follow running count for a while, and, if not good enough, move to anotgher table My question is:

what sort of negative running count should be to indicate that TC will NOT be plus 3?

Thanks in advance for reply.
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Take the number of remaining decks that haven't been played and multiply by 3. Anything less than that number as your RC will indicate it is not plus 3.

4 decks left * 3 = 12. Any RC less than 12 will not be plus 3.
 
Chander said:
I am practicing with a red seven count, Th casino I will have access to plays a 6 deck game. So My IRC is -12. Can I use an Running count to determine when to leave the table, or do I need to keep a true count as well?
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I use KO, a count system equivalent to Red Seven. My IRC is -20 (4 * # of decks - 4). I don't understand the difference. Anyway, for six deck my exit points are -22 with five decks remaining, -17 with four decks remaining, and -12 with three decks remaining. These exit points are recommended by the KO system.
 
aslan said:
I use KO, a count system equivalent to Red Seven. My IRC is -20 (4 * # of decks - 4). I don't understand the difference. Anyway, for six deck my exit points are -22 with five decks remaining, -17 with four decks remaining, and -12 with three decks remaining. These exit points are recommended by the KO system.
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Red 7 won't be the same because he only counts two more low cards than high cards, not 4. If he had an IRC of 20 and wanted to wong out at let's say -2 it would be something more like

5 decks - -28
4 decks - -24
3 decks - -20
2 decks - -16
1 deck - -12

If he wanted to wong out at -1 it would be

5 decks - -23
4 decks - -20
3 decks - -17
2 decks - -14
1 deck - -11

All of this assumes an IRC of -20, this would need to be adjusted a bit to whatever the OP's IRC is.

Edit: I see OP says -12, if I get bored later I might post the numbers if no one else does.
 
Deathclutch said:
Red 7 won't be the same because he only counts two more low cards than high cards, not 4. If he had an IRC of 20 and wanted to wong out at let's say -2 it would be something more like

5 decks - -28
4 decks - -24
3 decks - -20
2 decks - -16
1 deck - -12

If he wanted to wong out at -1 it would be

5 decks - -23
4 decks - -20
3 decks - -17
2 decks - -14
1 deck - -11

All of this assumes an IRC of -20, this would need to be adjusted a bit to whatever the OP's IRC is.

Edit: I see OP says -12, if I get bored later I might post the numbers if no one else does.
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Thanks for the correction. Been a while since I read about Red Seven and had incorrectly assumed the inbalance was the same. Same principle, different count. Also, it appears the IRC has been set to make the pivot point zero.
 
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